Varmint Control

Jun 26, 2009 213 Replies

Bird shot (without a shotun to drive it) is not going to be an improvement over pellets for those things - you want a serious pellet gun and practice enough to hit what you aim at. Use the larger caliber (.22 or .25) subsonic versions rather than the smaller caliber (.17) supersonic (or nearer-sonic) versions. However, a pellet gun with enough power to be useful hunting may still get the neighbors excited - they are not silent by any means.

Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

I may just go into training for dealing with leftist weenies... trap a rabbit, then leave in the sun as an example for those yet to be trapped ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

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I typed "air shotgun" into bing

Looks like s.e.d. has become your search engine, Jim!

I do not know, but you should give it back immediately.

All of your attempts at doing math, especially in this manner, proves that you are about as retarded as Roy is.

Both of you idiots sport a mental age that proves that numerical age is not what makes a man a man.

How is it you manage to turn every thread into a retarded, adolescent brained "bad joke" forum for your bent cracks, which only you think are funny?

Hopfully old idiots like you will be joining MJ for tea soon.

Some of the questions he asks are too stupid for even a ten year old.

If anyone should be ignored, it should be the Thompson twit.

Lead doesn't either. Rifle bores get damaged from the accelerant medium, and the Copper jackets, not the lead.

Not even close. Nowhere near the weight, nowhere near the speed, therefore nowhere near the impact energy., so nowhere near the same "power".

What would you call lead fouling? The lead does have to be cleaned from the barrel.

Lead fouling is the product of a much higher velocity IN THE BARELL, you idiot, AND it also utilizes components of the propellant medium from the previous firing(s) to abrade the barrel with. The first shot on a freshly cleaned gun with lead bullets leaves no lead in the barrel. Subsequent shots DO, as the debris in the barrel increases the friction between the slug and the barrel and lead gets "galled" off as it traverses up the barrel.

A low velocity lubricated slug, which pellets in an air powered system are, is NOT going to abrade ANY barrel, including the brass lined barrels they used to use ALL the time, any time soon. There is no galling, virtually ever.

It is just simply a much less aggressive process.

As far as cleaning goes, very little lead is gleaned off of the projectiles because less heat is generated, by the fact that they are well lubricated, AND the lower velocity up the barrel, and the lack of abrasive elements like previously burned propellant product debris. Unlike a powder actuate ballistic system where the projectile continues to accelerate as the gasses expand behind it expand, all the way up the barrel and that is proven by the fact that the same round, fired through two different barrel lengths yields two different muzzle velocities. The same cannot be said for air powered ballistic systems. The pressure is the same from the moment of valve actuation on, and actually decreases as the projectile moves up the barrel and more space is left for the gas "charge".

TheGlimmerMan wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Uh,most .380's are ~90 gr,and run about 900 FPS. Increasing the bullet weight doesn't have as big a gain as increasing velocity.

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

It most certainly does. The impact event is related to both velocity and the mass of the ballistic projectile.

It is 17% greater in the .380 by weight alone, using your numbers.

Most air rifles that fire lead projectiles are not 9mm bores.

And some day, you'll be a man...

Don't bet on it. He's beyond hope, and no one cares if he lives, or dies.

You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

I should have put a winky there, or if I'd said 1000W it would have been more obvious.

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more zero, and remove the last word.

The issues was lead, but since you have lead for brains, and pulled that stalking baby bullshit, you are EXZACTLY the retarded IDIOT that I called you.

Nice sidestep, dumbfucktard IDIOT!

You're missing a few screws... more than a few even.

krw wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

you think a CB won't go thru a window?

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

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