Re: Liability & responsibility of electrician?

There are rules for everything, right down to trash cans and keyboards and wrist rests, idiot. So even office personnel are under its wing. No 'work place' escapes.

You are pathetic.

'would no carny'?

WTF is that dumb s*it, you illiterate puke?

Wrong yet again.

This is the definition of "employer" in the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, Section 3, cited at

(5) The term "employer" means a person engaged in a business affecting commerce who has employees, but does not include the United States (not including the United States Postal Service) or any State or political subdivision of a State.

It's obvious on its face that this excludes *all* government workplaces except the USPS. With a bit of reflection, it's also obvious that this definition excludes *all* sole proprietorships (because they don't have employees). It also doesn't cover any business not "affecting commerce".

It's sad when you have to stoop to pointing out typos - as if you don't make them yourself. You're a pathetic porker Archie; an obese blob.

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Here is another example of Bill's so called intellegence. He snipped the part of the message that showed him to be a fool.

"down" in L.A. doncha mean?

And actually...no. I picked it up from the mentally retarded Libs that come in here and blither. It fits them (and you) so well I use it as part of my repetoir.

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement, reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno

Arguable, but it is the usual interpretation, but.... as soon as there are ANY changes in the facility wiring, they technically could require the entire facility be brought up to the most recent code.

That is not the general interpretation, but it has been done. Generally the inspectors/jurisdiction only require that the new/modified work be compliant. This can get a little dicey in hospitals and other health care facilities, with the(relatively)new "fully selective coordination " requirement, which can require changes back to the service entrance and E gen.

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So do other codes, such as those used to force people to no longer park their RVs in a driveway, and so on. Any ordinance that requires abatement action probably also does this. jk

Ahh your favorite word again, try looking up another type of "nym" (Synonym). Or is that too much like your 9th grade summer school homework. You are vulgar, trite, small minded, dim witted, under educated, lacking in the basic usenet social skills, and probably most social skill in general.

I've yet to see YOU post ANY useful content on ANY thing you have commented on.

The closest your sputum comes to well written, is that it should be at the bottom of a well used for a cess pit. Your single claim to fame seems to be in your ancestors, a dubious and unsupported one.

jk

Proving you have little or no reading comprehension. Read it again you scurvy boned lackwit.

But you seem to be the only one who really cares. So get over it.

WHy thank you. I realize you didn't intend it, and lack the logic to comprehend it, but thanks.

No one needs such a "Commission", such as I don't expect you have one from "PC clockwatcher Anon." and yet here you are, guarding the internet against the evils of clocks YOU deem incorrectly set.

Of course you have yet to explain your fetish. Your clock fetish that is, you have illuminated some of your others.

Wow.... A WHOLE sentence without using your favorite insult, or vulgarity.

I see you do not claim it isn't dubious. We all know why. jk

Assuming those were included in your scope of work for the 'allotted time", then your company is in willful violation.

Dream site for an OSHA inspector, assuming you are in an area subject to OSHA. I presume you are, since you have referenced the NEC as I recall.

Sounds to me like you admit that you are doing work that you KNOW to be both unsafe and in violation of the COde.

jk

No, retard. LA is UP from here.

Group of threats? There wasn't even one, you stupid little wussy.

Go take about ten remedial reading comprehension courses.

That does no , by itself a troll make. As you well know.

Make your mind up is it a "protocol", or a "convention".

Decades longer than you have been. But you seem to blindly and blatantly disregard such conventions as YOU see fit, so lighten up, get a clue, take your meds, or whatever else floats your boat. You haven't been getting any real traction here, but they seem to love you in alt.flame.

when you have something useful to say, raise your hand.

jk

WHat a small minded, geographically limited moron you are. There are loads of places their writ does not run.

Name one you say,??? Albania, Afghanistan, Algeria......Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe inclusive, with one exception in the U's

And even there, I think you will find that the Halls of Congress, and many other federal institutions are not subject to Osha.

jk

Tsk-Tsk...

Couldn't come up with something original, OK crocodile bait is a little off beat.

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To be an ex post facto law the the requirements you are complaining about would have to require a change to what is already built. Requiring the addition of smoke, CO, and explosive gas detectors to an existing building as a condition of a renewal of the use and occupancy only regulates the future condition of the building and then only as a condition of it being used in a certain way such as rental property. The code in question would be an ex post facto law if it required that the existing electrical plant be brought up to current code, that the pitch of the stairs be changed, or that the width of doorways that met the code at the time of construction be changed to match a new code requirement in the absence of a change in use. The difference is admittedly subtle but there is a difference.

-- Tom Horne

That's for sure Archie; that's for sure! But do be careful that you don't get carried away and suck him inside out.

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Complaining? No, just stating a fact. Yes, the building was already built.

...and commercial property, and not on change of residents.

You got me there. How is a CO detector different than any other code item? Just to make the point, they must be AC powered and *DO* require renovation to the electrical system.

I wanna hear this twisting....