Re: Liability & responsibility of electrician?

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>>to >>>be wrong. Having 245v in the building is not normal >> >> >> Its VERY normal in California..at least in the LA area. > >These service voltages are relics from the 50's/early sixties, not =

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The standard three phase service in LA county is 208VAC - by agreement =

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law. > >Primary power customers have a choice of one other supply voltage AFAIK =

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it isn't 240. >Where do you get this stuff from? > >JC=20 >

You, sir, are in error. I have ordered may services from LADWP and SCE and 120/240 single phase is the most common and standard. I have also ordered 240 V, 3 phase a few times, Also quite standard. I even once ordered 480/277 V, 3 phase, also standard. Even 120/208 V, 3 phase can be ordered, though it is not standard at the service level. YMMV

"You, sir, are in error. "

Perhaps, but I think we are talking about two different things.

" I have ordered may services from LADWP and SCE and 120/240 single phase is the most common and standard. I have also ordered 240 V, 3 phase a few times, Also quite standard. I even once ordered 480/277 V, 3 phase, also standard. Even 120/208 V, 3 phase can be ordered, though it is not standard at the service level."

Yes, we are. In LA County, by law, the standard three phase service that is REQUIRED to be supplied in 208 VAC. Any service provider MUST make that avaliable at their expense. Beyond that it's negotiable.

"YMMV" It has. I tried to have a 480 service upgraded in the late 90's. We were going to install the equivalent of an additional 2500 HP of electrical motor loads as an expansion to an injection molding company. SCE was happy as hell to make the runs and do the underground but there was a catch. We had to agree to a ten year contract and put in the vault ourselves. That seemed short sighted on their part to me and with the landlord wanting to raise our rent 20%, we bought a 40,000 Sq. foot tilt up building in an unincorporated area of the county just down the street and adjusted the purchase price to cover the electrical, and other, service upgrades. DPW was the provider so it really worked out well. SCE customers saw their rates sky rocket while mine didn't budge and SCE was just out the sales. It was a real competetive advantage.

What you can get, and what has got to be made avaliable, are two very different things. Unless there is some reaspn to pay for it, people go with the standard/coded hook ups.

I also wouldn't let an amateur like Gunner touch anything over 24V. The stories he's told of his exploites and the fact that he can't command more that $20.00/hr for his time in a $140.00 market speak for themselves. I can just see him pulling 2500 MCM and bringing an entire structure down on his head.