the 100W bulb lives on....

I am against having the federal government passing laws to require consumers to make choices that they would not make otherwise.

In Washington State where I used to live, most of the time incandescent lamps did not increase the cost of electricity as the heat produced meant less electricity used to heat the house.

Dan

I disagree with your philosophy. It is not the place of government to discourage people from wasting money. It is their money, they should be able to waste it if they want to.

Dan

That's usually how revisions to building codes are handled- don't know why you would make it sound exceptional...

It's a disease. Some very large percentage of leftists think that anyone who disagrees with them is stupid and needs to be compelled, indoctrinated, or at least silenced. Human rights? Only for those who Get With The Program.

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Right- it's hard to find a fixture rated for more than 60W these days, and actually for the last couple of decades- and even then they run too hot to touch at that dissipation.

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I was referrring to dimmed incandescents lasting longer,not dimmed CFLs.

even standard filament bulbs will last much longer on a dimmer.

That is one of the purposes of government. The general population are too stupid and ignorant to make informed rational decisions.

Only if you are actually stupid enough to use high grade electricity for resistive space heating. Profligate waste is the American way.

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You will not be allowed a choice in matters that adversely impact the environment in which I live.... get a clue.

Sigh. It means you were wrong when you said, EVERYTTHING.

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Yes,so what? they last a long time,so you aren't replacing them often,and that matters when such filament bulbs are becoming rarer. So what if they have a slightly reduced light output.I don't even care about their lower efficiency.

how many households have 130VAC supplied to them? Not many.

BTW,I have one contractor bulb in my apartment that has lasted for 25 years,daily,frequent use(bathroom,no dimmer),and another lasted 16 years.

If it did, they would brand a 10W bulb as 100W, and tell you that you need glasses. ;-)

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I can't be responsible for your lack of reading comprehension- obviously means everything regulated by building code ....

Oh, I know the plan, don't worry. Enemies of liberty always talk like that--McCarthy was fighting Communism, which certainly needed fighting, but he fell into the same trap they did--and that, ironically, helped the Communists more than anything else he could have done.

There's always something that needs fixing urgently, and other people have always been inconvenient. Liberty is precious, yours too.

Now go do something environmentally sound like planting a tree, instead of burning all those watts using your computer indoors.

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Phil

So, no internal combustion engines?

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Back in my old house in Irvine, we had two fancy carriage type lamps beside the garage door. They were on a photcell to come on and off during the night. The HOA required you to keed them lit, and would fine you if one was out too long, They were the only street lighting away from the corners.

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By burning less coal, obviously ! (*)

(*) Beats me how that works--you'll have to ask our politicians for the details.

-- Cheers, James Arthur