Toshiba presents first methanol mp3 players, 35 and 60 hours on a refill

I read in sci.electronics.design that snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote (in ) about 'Toshiba presents first methanol mp3 players, 35 and 60 hours on a refill', on Tue, 20 Sep 2005:

We can't. There is no point in posting an article that no-one except you can understand.

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that hanson wrote (in

9rHXe.784$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>) about 'Toshiba presents

first methanol mp3 players, 35 and 60 hours on a refill', on Mon, 19 Sep 2005:

drank it by

the quart, daily, without getting anything but gassed and terribly hung over.

Agreed, 50% got side effects, like going blind, after prolonged guzzling and

pigging out on it

methanol, like methylated spirits.

[hanson][/quote:0b510165be] ahaha... there was moonshine and moonshine. You are talking about the run of the (fermentation) mill stuff. I am referring to the distillate they got from the dry distillation of wood which produced "Wood Alcohol" pure Methanol, CH3OH... MeOH was much easier and faster to make than the stinky, time consuming fermentation process to yield EtOH....

Ian Stirling, with another take, posted an interesting but common remark: "...you can't buy a $30 (guess) 99.99% 1l methanol bottle, and have enough to refill it for life, but will be sold a 10ml refilling tool for $3"... which is $300/l... Capitalism anyone?.... ahahaha... It's the same game you saw with artificially cheap cameras and costly film, or one sees now with cheap printers, but with out of the world priced inks... Go/get into the game where the easy money is... Why not?

Take care guys, hanson

PS... and then there was Rich Grise, who cranked himself over my post... AHAHAHA.... and lamented in the Rich fashion of a little green idiot: ".... OK, please demonstrate. See if you can get your hands on a quart of methanol, drink it, and write back with your results." .... ahahaha... Grise obviously has never seen nor sniffed at nor would he know the difference between MeOH, EtOH, IPA or NPA all of which can be used for said purposes.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... Richie, we use MeOH in one of our divs by the tanker truck load each day, for decades. Nobody ever got sick from it!... But then, nobody ever did what you, Grise, have suggested. We have no greenies on our payroll... Thanks for the laughs, Rich-green Grise... ahahahahaha...

that hanson wrote (in

9rHXe.784$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>) about 'Toshiba presents

first methanol mp3 players, 35 and 60 hours on a refill', on Mon, 19 Sep 2005:

drank it by

the quart, daily, without getting anything but gassed and terribly hung over.

Agreed, 50% got side effects, like going blind, after prolonged guzzling and

pigging out on it

methanol, like methylated spirits.

[hanson][/quote:7460b48165] ahaha... there was moonshine and moonshine. You are talking about the run of the (fermentation) mill stuff. I am referring to the distillate they got from the dry distillation of wood which produced "Wood Alcohol" pure Methanol, CH3OH... MeOH was much easier and faster to make than the stinky, time consuming fermentation process to yield EtOH....

Ian Stirling, with another take, posted an interesting but common remark: "...you can't buy a $30 (guess) 99.99% 1l methanol bottle, and have enough to refill it for life, but will be sold a 10ml refilling tool for $3"... which is $300/l... Capitalism anyone?.... ahahaha... It's the same game one saw with artificially cheap cameras & very costly film, or one sees now with cheap printers, but with the out of world priced inks... Go/get into the game where the easy money is... Why not?

Take care guys, hanson

PS... and then there was Rich Grise, who cranked himself over my post... AHAHAHA.... and lamented in the Rich fashion of a little green idiot: ".... OK, please demonstrate. See if you can get your hands on a quart of methanol, drink it, and write back with your results." .... ahahaha... Grise obviously has never seen nor sniffed at nor would he know the difference between MeOH, EtOH, IPA or NPA all of which can be used for said purposes.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... Richie, we use MeOH in one of our divs by the tanker truck load each day, for decades. Nobody ever got sick from it!... But then, nobody ever did what you, Grise, have suggested. We have no greenies on our payroll... Thanks for the laughs, Rich-green Grise... ahahahahaha...

wrote (in

'Toshiba

on Tue, 20

you can

.... ahahaha... T'is a recent phenomenon and not only stocky's habit, to post one liners without references to object nor subject. So, John, consider:... The Usenet is a 24/7 crazy cyber party... and hence:.... "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir!... Laugh and Enjoy 'em, John. Especially the serious cyber nuts, the web lice and all those net fleas.... ahahahaha.... ahahaha... ahahanson

This is a non-sequitur. I was challenging your earlier assertation, "Methanol was sold as Moonshine during the prohibition and folks drank it by the quart, daily..."

I said, "Show me."

But, since you're nothing but a coward and a troll, you are incapable of anything but throwing attempted insults.

I see no reason to read any more of your stupidity.

'bye. Rich

Nonsense.

Because *killing* your customers isn't a good marketing plan. Methanol itself isn't toxic, but the liver metabolizes it to formaldehyde then to Formic Acid, which is a tad on the toxic side.

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AIUI, there are treatments (including ethanol) but not antidotes, per se.

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Some of us just enjoy the act of formication.

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[John] [hanson] ahaha... there was moonshine and moonshine. You are talking about the run of the (fermentation) mill stuff. I am referring to the distillate they got from the dry distillation of wood which produced "Wood Alcohol" pure Methanol, CH3OH... MeOH was much easier and faster to make than the stinky, time consuming fermentation process to yield EtOH....

Ian Stirling, with another take, posted an interesting but common remark: "...you can't buy a $30 (guess) 99.99% 1l methanol bottle, and have enough to refill it for life, but will be sold a 10ml refilling tool for $3"... which is $300/l... Capitalism anyone?.... ahahaha... It's the same game you saw with artificially cheap cameras and costly film, or one sees now with cheap printers, but with out of the world priced inks... Go/get into the game where the easy money is... Why not?

Take care guys, hanson

PS... and then there was Rich Grise, who cranked himself over my post... AHAHAHA.... and lamented in the Rich fashion of a little green idiot: ".... OK, please demonstrate. See if you can get your hands on a quart of methanol, drink it, and write back with your results." ... ahahaha... Grise obviously has never seen nor sniffed at nor would he know the difference between MeOH, EtOH, IPA or NPA all of which can be used for said purposes.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... Richie, we use MeOH in one of our divs by the tanker truck load each day, for decades. Nobody ever got sick from it!... But then, nobody ever did what you, Grise, have suggested. We have no greenies on our payroll... Thanks for the laughs, Rich-green Grise... ahahahahaha...

[John] [hanson] ahaha... there was moonshine and moonshine. You are talking about the run of the (fermentation) mill stuff. I am referring to the distillate they got from the dry distillation of wood which produced "Wood Alcohol" pure Methanol, CH3OH... MeOH was much easier and faster to make than the stinky, time consuming fermentation process to yield EtOH....

Ian Stirling, with another take, posted an interesting but common remark: "...you can't buy a $30 (guess) 99.99% 1l methanol bottle, and have enough to refill it for life, but will be sold a 10ml refilling tool for $3"... which is $300/l... Capitalism anyone?.... ahahaha... It's the same game one saw with artificially cheap cameras & very costly film, or one sees now with cheap printers, but with the out of world priced inks... Go/get into the game where the easy money is... Why not?

Take care guys, hanson

PS... and then there was Rich Grise, who cranked himself over my post... AHAHAHA.... and lamented in the Rich fashion of a little green idiot: ".... OK, please demonstrate. See if you can get your hands on a quart of methanol, drink it, and write back with your results." ... ahahaha... Grise obviously has never seen nor sniffed at nor would he know the difference between MeOH, EtOH, IPA or NPA all of which can be used for said purposes.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... Richie, we use MeOH in one of our divs by the tanker truck load each day, for decades. Nobody ever got sick from it!... But then, nobody ever did what you, Grise, have suggested. We have no greenies on our payroll... Thanks for the laughs, Rich-green Grise... ahahahahaha...

[Stocky] [John] [hanson] .... ahahaha... T'is a recent phenomenon and not only stocky's habit, to post one liners without references to object nor subject. So, John, consider:... The Usenet is a 24/7 crazy cyber party... and hence:.... "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir!... Laugh and Enjoy 'em, John. Especially the serious cyber nuts, the web lice and all those net fleas.... ahahahaha.... ahahaha... ahahanson

On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:14:19 +0100) it happened John Woodgate wrote in :

I read in sci.electronics.design that Paul Burke wrote

) about 'isopropyl alcohol and

Tue, 20 Sep 2005:

sense, ease of

Dutch uses the

"camera's".

I write cameras When you write 's you refer to that what belongs to the camera, 'De camera's lens' [=the well obvious] for example. But my Dutch was never that good, only native.

British 'greengrocer's apostrophe' is alive and well and living in

Netherlands. (;-)

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I read in sci.electronics.design that Jan Panteltje wrote (in ) about 'isopropyl alcohol and Kerosine.', on Tue, 20 Sep 2005:

Well, the plural with apostrophe is what I was told by an IEC Dutch person, and I've seen it often since then.

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Ah, globalization, and the issues to be resolved.

On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:51:51 +0100) it happened John Woodgate wrote in :

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idiots use 's for plural. The good thing is that there is a recommendation to teach only in English in the universities. What is interesting is that I did not notice it, while reading it a thousand times. Even more interesting is if I have used it in correspondence.... LOL Would they have DARED to object? hehe But now you made me curious: I did some googling, and find both. Look here:

Maybe the spelling was changed some time after I left school, they come up with new ideas every few years....

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Given the size of this thing, it would be no more dangerous than carrying a miniature bottle of over-proof rum. There is more danger in the drinks cart than in one of these devices.

I read in sci.electronics.design that snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote (in ) about 'Toshiba presents first methanol mp3 players, 35 and 60 hours on a refill', on Tue, 20 Sep 2005:

We can't. There is no point in posting an article that no-one except you can understand.

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Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
If everything has been designed, a god designed evolution by natural selection.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Early studies were done using rats and it turns out that their skin is about twice as permeable to methanol as human skin. You'll get more methanol from eating a tomato than from spilling a bit on your hands.

Ken Muldrew snipped-for-privacy@ucalgazry.ca (remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

[hanson] [hanson] [Rich Greene Grise] [hanson] AHAHAHA... oh, but you will, Richie... you will follow every pearl of my wisdom I will throw before the green swine... ahahaha... All class 3 enviros, hordes of little green idiots like you, are in my tow...and crank themselves until they become even greener.... That is my contribution to environmentalism..... ahahahaha... Thanks for the laughs, Richie... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahaha... ahanson

PS: Modern, attributal definitions of enviro classifications: Class (1) Green shit(s): ...are the ones who advocate, promote, support, legalize, institute and extort the permit charges, the user fees, the enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax, all reflected in HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, and being responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING! Class (2) Green turd(s):... are the ones who are recipients and beneficiaries from the lootings of (1), directly or indirectly. Class (3) Little green idiot(s):.. are the unpaid, well-meaning ones who think they do something for the "environment", when in fact they are only the enablers and facilitators for (2) who are harvesting the green $$$ that (1) has extorted.