You know there is no online archive of the subject outline from your DipTT that is accessible online hence you just say you don't have it.
No DipTT would include a subject of that nature. You would have done methods of teaching, classroom management, but nothing like a subject in metallurgy.
In fact I suggest you look at
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Starting around page 45 it outlines subjects in the DipTT. Your explanation does not fit in with the course outline.
You really snookered yourself this time. Well done.
What sort of clown are you? You forget one tiny detail. I studied
*Technical Teaching*. That's what the TT stands for in DipTT. It was
*logical* to study something that is in my method area. Welding and the associated metallurgy definitely is.
Wrong year. I was there, I know *what* I studied and I know *where* I studied it.
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Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Init funny how he's prepared to go all the way to the public records office in another *state* to try to disprove shit about me, but won't so much as provide a basic link to back up anything he claims about himself.
Amazing, huh? :)
Any money you like that the FLC will have *nothing* whatsoever to say about this latest round of bullshit from their king, but there'll be 200 posts about me full of invented pissing and moaning as usual :)
Your posts are 100% rolled gold bullshit and you *won't back your claims*. In the case of your trade quals, it's easy to see why. You can't back them because they were bullshit from the get go. I have no doubt your claims of owning a business for 15 years is just as much bullshit.
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Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Curiously everyone who has completed their automotive trade studies and apprenticeship knows what an automotive apprenticeship involves in terms of subjects covered and what is assessed yet NoddyLiar somehow has no idea what is required to complete an automotive trade apprenticeship.
The only reasonable explanation is that he never completed an apprenticeship.
And given that you have provided 100% verifiable proof that crosschecks over decades of everything else you say you have done, have worked and are qualified for there's a good chance that is the truth as well.
Now, let's compare the evidence of NoddyLiar's two big claims...
I am beginning to think he never even started one. By that I am referring to the AME(engines) apprenticeship of which he claims to have completed 3 years. He hasn't even a grasp of *first year fundamentals* in engines. There is another facet however and that is the entry level into that trade. For most trades, the entry level was good passes in year 9 in relevant subjects. By his own admission, Noddy skipped the last 3 months of year 9. That means he couldn't have met that entry level at all. But then, the archives tell me that the AME apprenticeships involve 4 years at TAFE, not 3 as is the case with most apprenticeships like motor mechanics. That tells me that the AME apprenticeships are at *technician level* or, as it is better known these days, Certificate 4 level rather than Certificate 3. That means the entry level would surely be year 10 rather than year 9. I will have to refer to Graeme on that score since he is fully qualified and certified as a LAME(engines/electrical/airframe). Yes, triple certified as I found out last time I saw him. The other point was that Noddy stated he had to wait until he was 15 before he could legally start work. Fair enough, that was the legal school leaving age back then. However, it doesn't apply if you enter into some form of *training*. An apprenticeship constitutes training so signing up 3 months early prior to the 15th birthday wouldn't have been an issue. A friend of mine at KMHS in Launceston started an apprenticeship when he was only 14. I suspect Noddy was just a TA (trades assistant) at the airport which was why he was considered expendable. Certainly had he actually completed 3 years of the 4 of an apprenticeship, he would not have been made redundant, as he claims he was. The IR laws had a lot of leeway in cases like that. I might just look as far back as 1978 when I am at PROV since the archives there cover all apprenticeships in Victoria, including AME apprenticeships.
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Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
A very good chance, like 100%. For instance, why would I invent something like that? I was enrolled at Hawthorn Institute, a technical teachers college and a campus of Melbourne Uni. Caulfield was an Institute of Technology and ran degree courses in engineering. Caulfield was set up to run the course I attended, Hawthorn wasn't. I presume the two entities had come to some arrangement. Why would we trainees get sent there to do something like basic welding that we were already trained to do in our apprenticeships? No, we needed to go beyond basic welding because we needed to have a higher level of expertise than the level at which we were teaching. That said, I was teaching welding at Sunshine Tech from the very first day I took classes. I still recall nipping across to the Fab Shop and having a bit of a go since I hadn't done any welding all the time I was in the mining industry - demarcation issue you see - it was a boilermakers job to do all the welding and I was very much out of practice. A half hour or so and I was getting back into the swing of striking a good arc and running nice beads. After that segment at Caulfield was completed, we went to the Holden Engine plant and put some theory into practice. It was an impressive foundry they had there. On the subject of annealing, did you know that a complex cylinder head, after it has been cast, needs to be annealed. It's because the cooling process of the casting is uneven and residual stresses build up in the head. The annealing process relieves those stresses otherwise you'll end up with cracking before the head enters service. The alternative is to leave the casting sand, which is an insulator, in the mould and let the casting cool slowly. It takes hours and hours to do that. There was a trip to Lysaghts Rolling Mill at Hastings as well but I missed that one. Can't recall why I missed that trip but I think that was when my wife was in hospital late in 82.
All those trade related topics came under the broader heading of *Method Area Studies* - what is being taught, not the how. For instance, we studied fuel injection systems when few cars had it and the Bosch K Jetronic system was the main one in use. IIRC, the dealer trainer for BMW came out to the college to conduct that aspect of the course and be brought along a 7 series BMW as a teaching aid. It had a Bosch Motronic system on it, earlier BMW 7 series being equipped with an L Jetronic system which Holden didn't get until the VK.
Grumpy acts like he knows what teachers get taught at Uni but the reality, he knows very little. He would have a much better idea had he actually studied at degree level himself. By the same token, had Noddy ever done an apprenticeship, he too would have a far greater insight into the processes. As it stands, both are showing a level of ignorance about something in which they have no experience - and you know how they bang on about experience! ;-)
I think the word *Zip* covers it adequately.
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Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy
especially since he's never given any evidence in support of any of his claims
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"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy
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"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy
Yep, he did and that was my point above. Aside from that grand *failure*, he was only a mere clerk at the uni, not a teacher, not a curriculum co- ordinator, just a pen pusher in a menial role. That?s why he left, no ability to progress.
I questioned Xeno, I've seen his evidence and verified everything he says going back decades. That covers my end.
Nobody anywhere has seen proof of NodyLiar's big two claims, you included but here you choose to ignore the elephant in the room that almost everyone else can plainly see.
What do you expect to happen when you attack and lie and demand proof of claims from others in tens of thousands of posts, whilst you make grand claims about yourself that you refuse to back up?
Rational and intelligent people are not going to give you a free pass and let you bullshit away just because you see yourself as the group's authority.
It is indeed. I don't see how *I'm snookered* when I'm not in possession of a *subject outline* for a course I undertook 37 years ago. I have the relevant Diploma and the list of subjects passed, that is all. Why would I keep anything more? I didn't even keep the yearbooks, of which I had six (81-86), beyond being conferred.
I do like how the Grumpy is telling everyone what subjects a DipTT would include. Shows just how little he knows about teaching and teacher training, especially in the trade area. For instance, a person doing a BEd, the full one of 4 years, will study two general aspects - teaching method and subject method, my method area being automotive, more specifically motor mechanics. Of that 4 years, approx. one year will be teaching method, the remainder will be subject method. As a trainee technical teacher, the entry requirement was an apprenticeship and an equivalent period post apprenticeship - 8-10 years total. That 10 years formed the bulk of my subject method requirement, 80% or better. That meant the bulk of my two years full time was focused on teaching method. Any subject method training was focused on *advanced trade training* which is why the course at Caulfield focused on metallurgy. Rest assured, an understanding of metallurgy rendered the teaching of welding much easier since you have a broader range of expertise upon which to draw. Even the welding skills training I had at Caulfield was at an advanced level, I learnt some fancy stuff. After all, I already had basic welding training and experience well covered during my apprenticeship and beyond. Completion of the first two years full time at Hawthorn entitled me to the CertTT. The expectation was that trainees would enter teaching already in possession of an Automotive Technicians Certificate or an engineering equivalent like the Certificate of Technology. Most trainees had this and that meant they *immediately qualified* for the DipTT at the same time as they qualified for the CertTT. The Technicians Certificate wasn't a thing outside of Victoria and I had only a couple of subjects of the CoT from Launceston. That meant I needed another 36 points of advanced trade subjects to graduate with my DipTT and these I completed at Hawthorn part time over the next 4 years and graduated in
That put me 4 years behind on the pay scale advancement.
After all his time at a Uni, Grumpy still can't see that, when teaching at a particular level, the teacher needs to have qualifications at least one level *above*. That is fairly general in education worldwide. if you want to lecture at Uni at undergraduate level, you require, in general, at least a Masters. Course outlines in a yearbook don't give you the full picture.
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Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
He can't possibly back up those claims. He'd need trade papers at the very least to back up his qualifications claims and I know for sure he isn't and never was in possession of those.
The *real world* is an alien concept to Noddy. His is a fantasy world where only he can be king. Have I got some bad news for him!
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Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
I don't think you're going to find a standard or stock product that will fit your required dimensions. There are far too many combinations of length, diameter, material, finish, angle, hole size, etc, for stocking to be profitable. You'll probably end up having something fabricated.
However, if price is no object, try a "strut tie bar support" at your local (racing) auto parts supplier: It's main purpose is to keep the cantilevered front bumper on a racing car from falling off when it goes over a bump in the road: Therefore, it doesn't have much lateral or bending strength. This may be a problem if you plan to use it as a handle.
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