Why aren't computer clocks as accurate as cheap quartz watches?

John Doe is apparently unable to comprehend that the world changes and what were acceptable products in the past no longer are, just as the previously popular cars with hand crank starters no longer are.

Now show me any significant number who actually practice that novel theory.

Which is still an O.S. with a browser.

It has always been possible to get any browser at all preinstalled, or add one.

Which, even if true, doesn't alter the fact that your post was one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a long time,

Didn't forget a thing, pal.

You can try obfuscating it all you want but it is a matter of record that Netscape was free.

Microsoft never did such a thing. Netscape did.

How's that for a 'difference', eh?

I have repaired computers for 23 years. I teach free classes on computer repair and how to build your own. I have worked with embedded controllers, both custom design and PC-104 format. Some of my computer work is in orbit aboard the ISS. Now that I am a 100% non service connected disabled veteran I have started a program to collect and repair computers which are given to disabled veterans who can't afford to purchase on on their disability pension. I repair some motherboards and other computer circuit boards, monitors and printers. I owned a used computer business for a few years before I went back to electronics manufacturing of communications equipment. Do you have any idea how much bandwidth is available to the ISS, or what equipment they use? I worked on the KU band equipment used for data and private video link to the ISS.

Your claim wasn't just overly simplistic it was fundamentally flawed logic.

Which is why your logic had no sense to it.

You've not provided any evidence of it.

But sane, rational, 'good guy' you would wait till there isn't any?

You don't notice a teensy flaw in your business plan?

Just the facts, mam.

Metal tube in the ground. You got some other kind?

Good for you. So stop whining about the costs they impose.

I hope your house in on the docks then.

I have absolutely no idea what the heck any of that is supposed to mean or by what twisted logic it came from.

Glad to hear it, so I don't suppose you have a problem then.

Supply and demand.

Because it's a world market and if oil is going for X everywhere else why would a 'local' sell it there for Y when they could sell it to someone else for the X world price?

Uh, what do you think the earth might 'sink' into? Space?

Proven Oil Reserves (billions of barrels)

World OPEC

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The main reason Microsoft integrated Internet Explorer into Windows was to crush the Navigator/Java threat.

Step out of your closet and take off your blinders.

Which could better be included by OEMs or installed by those of us who don't need everything preinstalled.

I guess you've never experienced the problems an integrated Internet Explorer can cause in Windows. Some of us enjoy having only the programs we need.

Long gone are the days I tried to keep up with the ever increasing garbage Microsoft dumped onto my hard drive with each new version of Windows. It's like living on a landfill.

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And what was that?

You could drop dead and no one would notice.

Many computers are handed down.

Scatter brain.

I think your memory is getting shorter by the minute.

You are out of touch.

They do and they feel justified. Everybody else in the world gets it for free, Americans don't like being the only support for Microsoft's empire.

Or maybe it's the hard drugs you are using.

Obviously you did.

I think you have it backwards. Netscape began giving navigator away after Microsoft began pushing navigator out of the market. That loss was approximately 17% of Netscape's income.

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A handed-down computer still contains the operating system originally installed upon it, so this is not an excuse to pirate the software.

Every ordinary desktop computer I see these days has something preinstalled on it, typically Microsoft Windows.

Crooks always feel justified. But not everyone is a crook.

Now you've descended into witless name calling, not that it was all that grand a descent from where you started.

Obviously not.

Then you'd be wrong.

That's when they returned to giving it away.

Netscape began life as Mosaic Communications Corp in April 1994 and took on the name Netscape in November of the same year.

Read and weep

"Netscape, Available Now, Builds On Tradition of Freeware for the Net

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. (October 13, 1994) -- Mosaic Communications Corporation today announced that it is offering its newly introduced Netscape network navigator free to users via the Internet. . . . "Making Netscape freely available to Internet users is Mosaic Communications' way of contributing to the explosive growth of innovative information applications on global networks," said Andreessen, vice president of technology at Mosaic Communications. "

After they wiped out the competition and acquired a dominate position, yes.

That's certainly your opinion but what makes you think your mind reading skills work any better on Bill Gates than they do on me?

In other words you can't support the theory.

I've already explained why an O.S. supplier would want to control things like critical updates and other O.S. functions.

Feel free to install anything you like, just as you've always been able to.

You're right, I haven't experienced any problems.

Then don't use Windows.

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if I already had a browser.

most people buy a computer with the software already installed. they could as easily buy an OS and a browser as buy an OS with a browser.

There's no need for the browser to be part of the critical update mechanism.

Debian's update mechanism works fine without a browser.

say what?

Bye. Jasen

My name calling should flatter you. Obviously you will say anything not no matter how frivolous, in an attempt to win an argument. Any technical advice you give should be verified by the reader with someone who can be trusted.

You provided a citation. I am impressed.

Which doesn't mean anything by itself. If Netscape were overcharging, Microsoft would have been able to gain market share without illegally using its Windows monopoly.

pack ice?

Bye. Jasen

"...we uphold the District Court's finding of monopoly power in its entirety."

"...we reject Microsoft's argument that we should vacate the District Court's Finding of Fact 159 as it relates to consumer confusion."

"The District Court found that the restrictions Microsoft imposed in licensing Windows to OEMs prevented many OEMs from distributing browsers other than IE."

"By preventing OEMs from removing visible means of user access to IE, the license restriction prevents many OEMs from pre-installing a rival browser and, therefore, protects Microsoft's monopoly from the competition that middleware might otherwise present. Therefore, we conclude that the license restriction at issue is anticompetitive."

"These restrictions impose significant costs upon the OEMs; prior to Microsoft's prohibiting the practice, many OEMs would change the appearance of the desktop in ways they found beneficial. (March 1997 letter from Hewlett-Packard to Microsoft: "We are responsible for the cost of technical support of our customers, including the 33% of calls we get related to the lack of quality or confusion generated by your product.... We must have more ability to decide how our system is presented to our end users. If we had a choice of another supplier, based on your actions in this area, you would not be our supplier of choice.")."

"Microsoft's primary copyright argument borders upon the frivolous. The company claims an absolute and unfettered right to use its intellectual property as it wishes: "If intellectual property rights have been lawfully acquired," it says, then "their subsequent exercise cannot give rise to antitrust liability." That is no more correct than the proposition that use of one's personal property, such as a baseball bat, cannot give rise to tort liability."

"In sum, we hold that with the exception of the one restriction prohibiting automatically launched alternative interfaces, all the OEM license restrictions at issue represent uses of Microsoft's market power to protect its monopoly, unredeemed by any legitimate justification. The restrictions therefore violate section 2 of the Sherman Act."