Why aren't computer clocks as accurate as cheap quartz watches?
Oct 26, 2005 479 Replies
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David Maynard
None of your business what he gives nor does it matter what you think he 'should'.
And CPM was 'stolen' from Digital Equipment Corp RT-11 right down to pip but if you think MS-DOS looks like CPM then you never used CPM.
On the other hand one wonders how he ran the 'stolen' 8 bit 8080 CMP code on 16 bit processors.
He got rich because instead of bitching about it he went ahead and did it.
Yep.
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Gary H
Well, opinions *are* allowed and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked and I'm not bitching I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you.
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Michael A. Terrell
I never begged. I found odd jobs and paid for my own food. I may have slept in my truck and taken showers at a relatives house, but I was never a bum. They were paid for their kindness by doing repair work on their homes, cars or whatever needed worked on.
Around here that will get you arrested. The homeless live in the Ocala national forest and are treated like trash. A lot of them a re veterans we are trying to help find jobs and get back on their feet but most want nothing to do with anyone outside of their camouflaged camps.
Yes, I have to use a cane, but the only thing I want from that is for people to leave me enough room to walk with it and not for them to blow their horn and scream obscenities when I walk across a marked crossing from the parking lot into a store.
yeah, life is an adventure. With my health i would have never made it into the space program, but I built a lot of communications gear for NASA, including equipment that is in orbit.
I'm a veteran, too. US Army, 26T20 MOS. In fact, I'm on a 100% VA disability now but back in the mid '70s the VA refused to help me, but the "Soldiers and Sailor's Relief Fund" gave me a whole $25 to help pay my bills and told that was all I would ever get from them.
I am on medication for high blood pressure, Diabetes, and severe swelling in my legs. The medication for the Diabetes was doubled six months ago, and a new drug was added last week. The consulting surgeon from Shands Hospital in Gainsville (A large teaching and research hospital across the street from the VA hospital) told me last month that they have decided not to operate on my carpal tunnel because they don't think it will help me. They also recommended against severing the nerves along the outside of my left arm because I would loose almost all feeling in my left arm. The nerve damage causes a constant tingle like a mild electric shock from my little finger up past my elbow. Then there is something wrong with my left leg. It will buckle without warning, so I use a cane most of the time. When I don't, I have to lock my knee and walk that way to keep from falling.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Mxsmanic
Beggars and bums are not synonymous. There are situations and times in which some people may be temporarily reduced to begging without this necessarily reflecting upon their habitual industry. It is true that someone who chooses voluntarily to make a career of begging over the long term may be somewhat of a bum, particularly in developed countries where so many other options exist.
Yours must be a very cruel society.
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Mxsmanic
Many people refuse to believe that anyone could become more successful than themselves through purely legitimate means because it implies that these such a person might be smarter than they are, and they cannot accept this possibility.
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Gary H
Awwww, please don't practice your dime store psychology on me? I know Bill Gates is much much smarter than I am, no question about it. I didn't say he wasn't. I merely said he was a thief with accomplices before and after the fact. Why do you have to make it complicated? :-)
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Mxsmanic
I don't recall mentioning you. Hmm.
Do you find "dime-store" psychology to be complicated?
Bill Gates is no more a thief than any other corporate CEO. He happens to be the founder of a very successful company, and the founders of successful companies are routinely demonized, typically without any rational basis for doing so.
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David Maynard
Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business.
Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS.
It's precisely what you're doing.
None of your business.
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David Maynard
Because you demonstrate the trait even in the denial of it.
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Gary H
Never said it was my business, just stated an opinion.
It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire.
Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on all day.
True statement that.
Damn, snotty little soul aren't you?
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Gary H
Inferred.
Nope, just useless.
Non sequitur. I wasn't discussing the matter nor comparing the individual to anyone else. Just making a statement.
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Gary H
Jeeze, another would be amateur psychologist. Lawd hep us!!
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David Maynard
You didn't have to as it's implicit in your 'critique', as if it's any of your business.
And I just stated it's none of your business.
You're the one making the claim and the accusation. It's not up to me to do your supporting research.
It's self evident.
I find it mildly amusing when those who spit out accusations (thief, liar, whatever) then accuse perceived 'defenders' of being 'snotty', or some other pejorative.
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Gary H
I find it mildly amusing when some people hang out in these NGs simply to show off their vocabularies and to instigate arguments??
I find that most folks like the BGs of the world, you know, the Rockefellers and such... Their money always seems to become more respectable, the older it gets.
As for me, just a point of view and that's about as simple as it gets. If you feel you have to jump to the defense of these poor helpless folks, then go for it. Shrug.
Defend as much as you wish, go to war for them, bow and pray to them, so what. It still boils down to opinion and all the arguing in the world isn't going to change that.
When it comes to folks like them, you would like to be able to kiss ass, I'd like to be able to kick ass. See, just a different point of view. Get over it.
So, further response on this one would seem unnecessary on my part.
Have a good day, maybe Bill will send you a Christmas card. Postage due. :-)
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JAD
don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you listening? Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping when someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought out very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well its nonsense.
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Gary H
Ah well it's criticism based on many writings and rulings (I suppose) by "experts". He's ended up in court in the US (antitrust, guilty) and in Europe (antitrust, guilty) fined 32 million by South Korea's FTC (Fair Trade Commission, guilty)
Yeah, self made man, always by the book, never stiffed anyone.
Typical US mentality. Money first then trickle down to all the other mundane stuff kicking and screaming all the way. Gimme a break.
Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast he woulda been sucked out of his socks.
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Ahhhh I C now where its coming from...... and here I thought it actually had something to do with money and Bill Gates........
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Mxsmanic
Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories. In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's arm.
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Mxsmanic
Are you asking or asserting?
Some people have naturally rich vocabularies. The fact that they use them doesn't mean that they are showing off, although it might seem that way to people with more limited vocabularies.
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Mxsmanic
No, he would not. Nothing has really changed in that respect. He didn't really "pull" anything to begin with, and the consequences of what he did or did not do would not be different today.
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