Off Topic; The downfall of the US.

"Civilized" is going to be the death of us :-( ...Jim Thompson

Japan isn't dominating anyone right now. They've had 20-odd years of stagflation with a massive government debt that they may end up defaulting on, and a welfare state that would make any U.S. conservative have a conniption fit. In something like 15 years it's estimated that at current rates they'll have 1 person supported by the state for every

Wasn't that Woodrow Wilson?

Wasn't that Truman? Hmmm...yesterday, March 9th, marks the 66th anniversary of the US bombing of Tokyo with 2,000 tons of incendiary bombs, immolating an estimated 1.6 million civilian men, women, and children in a horrific firestorm...wasn't that wonderful. In its shame, the US continues to lie to this day putting the death toll at

About 100% of the official US history is blatant lies, propaganda and bullshit.

Not just China. Japan was using force to one degree or another to spread its influence across SE Asia. Perl Harbor happened because the Japanese suspected (probably correctly) that eventually they'd end up in a military confrontation with us. So they tried to take out our Pacific fleet as a preventative measure. Too bad (for them) that they missed all the aircraft carriers.

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YOU of course know ALL. Another north end of a southbound horse.

G=B2

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:55:54 -0800 (PST)) it happened Glenn Gundlach wrote in :

It is always good to read some of the other side. History is full of winners who justify themselves, and portrait themselves as saints and the defeated enemy as evil. I will not go into this any deeper right now, as the interstellar link is really slow. But I hope to be in reach of the space network withing a few hours if the time warp works as calculated, and then I will possibly follow up on this. Jim is right, 'civilised' will destroy the US empire, Political infighting, political correctness, and keeping every kid stupid by forbidding basic physics because it is 'too dangerous', nobody a gun or a clue how to fire it, that generation will lose the next war or simply die of ignorance.

You forgot to mention that WE technically started the war by economically pushing Japan too hard. Also that we KNEW weeks in advance about their attack. And that the use of the A bomb was the "deciding" factor. Oh, do not forget that these things were KNOWN by at least some of the populace then...i was a kid and heard about these under the rug facts.

Oh, PLEASE get it right! A bunch of military took over Japan, killed the premier, then decided that the Pacific had to be completely dominated by them, and them alone. Pearl Harbor started the war. Unless... is 'Baer' is an old family name from Osaka?

John Fields wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

none of that is responsible for the downfall of the US,it's the creeping socialism and political correctness.

Robert Baer wrote in news:MOudndc7M9q9d-TQnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@posted.localnet:

Japan invaded China because the US "pushed them too hard economically"?

He should come out from under the rug...

tm

WW2.

You're avoiding the issue of the USA deliberately targeting millions of civilians for horrible death, and then lying about the enormity of the carnage.

Of course, it was in the interest of both countries to make the slaughter look less than it was: the US looked less barbaric and the Japanese looked like they took less of a beating.

Yes- because it was military on military.

The modern Japanese military was educated by the US and France...

The US armed and advised the Imperial forces that overthrew the 250 year reign of the Shogunate. Until that time, the Emporer was a religious figurehead without political power.

As long as you're on that subject, let's not forget the US granted amnesty to the main Japanese players in germ warfare research in return for their assistance in turning over the results of their work....

As if we're not already squandering trillions of dollars of taxpayer money and our childrens' lives on two stupid wars. And yes, your history is all screwed up.