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John can do anything he wants to...I really don't care.

He has shown himself to be of your low caliber.

I hope both of you are very happy together hand in hand.

And be sure to deal with Gunner...you deserve it.

TMT

What sort of business would that be?

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LOL...thanks for proving me correct.

Enjoy wallowing in your own mental waste.

TMT

Yes you do, and you are.

That is obvious.

I'll take that as an admission that - once again - I've proved that you don't know what you are talking about, forcing you to retreat to personal abuse.

In fact I've been having a fairly productive period. With any luck I'll get to boast about it later, when I'm in a position to go public.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen (but in Sydney at the moment).

Does it have to do with global warming, or with something you can actually influence?

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The University of Alabama at Huntsville has been posting funny data that doesn't tie up with anybody else's for some time now. Hadcrut3 - which you used to like - has some 0.3 Kelvin increase since 1979.

Since the various ocean current perambulations produce this level of noise on the global temperature record - the North Atlantic Multidecal Oscillation seems to be cooling us off at the moment - this is all a bit too short term to be wildly interesting.

CO2 levels have been rising steadily since we started burning significant amounts of coal, around 1750. The rate has accelerated a lot over the last century, a pweriod over which we've seen something like 0.6K of warming - enough to make it very likely that this wasn't just noise in the global temperature record.

Bill Ruddiman thinks that our ancestors managed to create significant anthropogenic global warming when they took up agriculture - enough to stave off the next ice age, which was due to start around now

The physics is unambiguous - more CO2 in the atmosphere means higher temperatures at the surface of the earth. The physicists can't produce a particulalry precise figure for the exact amount of warming per unit CO2 in the atmosphere, but even the lowest plausible level of warming is too hgh to let us go on burning fossil carbon and dumping the CO2 in the atmosphere at the current rate.

You seem to be a little too ignorant to follow the physics, and a little too attached to the idea that anthropogenic global warming is bunk to look at the data rationally. Why else would you latch on to the anomolous University of Alabama data when it contradicts everybody else?

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

LOL...nothing you need to worry about now.

For a man who is doing great business, you sure spend a lot of time on Usenet.

Do you bill your customers for your posting time?

TMT

True, John has no worry about the unemployed.

He owns the business, dummy.

You really are dumb. He sells electronics, not time.

I sell products, not hours. And I have people to manufacture them, test them, sell them. Every once in a while I design something new.

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Good discussion Bill.

The one thing that has convinced many scientists is the melting of the Arctic ice.

The buffering ice provides for temperature variation is extremely important.

Without it, the world will be a very different place to live in.

TMT

LOL...Hey Mikey...enjoy trashing your reputation?

TMT

Yawn.

You seem to share John Larkin's delusion that social classes have to be discrete, so you can only change class by some kind of quantum jump. American society isn't stratified, but people at the top of the heap - rich, with a good education, who have acquaintances with similar advantages - have a much greater chance of success in anything they want to do than would an equally talented and industrious individual with aless favoured background.

In general the rich and favoured in the USA have a bigger magin over their less favoured contemporaries than their equivalents in the advanced industrial countries of western Europe, mainly because American society does less for memebers of the poorest class than the advanced industrial countries of western Europe.

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You seem to share John Larkin's delusion that social classes have to be discrete, so you can only change class by some kind of quantum jump. American society isn't stratified, but people at the top of the heap - rich, with a good education, who have acquaintances with similar advantages - have a much greater chance of success in anything they want to do than would an equally talented and industrious individual with aless favoured background.

In general the rich and favoured in the USA have a bigger magin over their less favoured contemporaries than their equivalents in the advanced industrial countries of western Europe, mainly because American society does less for memebers of the poorest class than the advanced industrial countries of western Europe.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

You should know that I don't know much about global warming - a great deal more than you or Eeyore, of course, but nowhere near enough to have publishable insights.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Well, let's hope you find something useful to do so you can quit obsessing about something you don't know much about and can't influence.

We might even hope it has something to do with electronics, which might encourage you to post on-topic now and then. About stuff that's not 30 years old.

Good luck. Sincerely.

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The questioning was a form of persecution, aimed at making it impossible for him to work in Hollywood. He didn't do as well as he would have done without Hollywood, and Hollywood didn't do as well as it would have done with him.

Unfortunately, Senator Joshep McCarthy didn't know who the real Soviet agents were, and his comical investigations didn't find any of them. He was a publicity-seeking political opportunist who did a lot of damage without producing a shred of compensating advantage for anybody involved, with the possible exception of Richard Nixon, whose subsequent political success can't be seen as an unmixed blessing.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen