OT: Here comes da Judge

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rch and development projects in the field of Concentrating Solar Power (CSP ) that total over $14 million. The goal of the R&D program is to develop CS P technologies that are competitive with conventional energy sources (grid parity) by 2015.

rtment of Energy conditionally committed to offering a $1.45 billion loan g uarantee to support construction by Abengoa Solar of the Solana Generating Station, in Arizona."

seable electricity than any thermal system can. At the moment their cost pe r kW.hour is higher, but there's still quite a lot yet to be gained from ec onomies of scale, and extracting fossil carbon is never going to get cheape r - we've already extracted all the stuff that's cheap to extract and we ar e working our way through progressively more difficult-to-extract deposits.

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to their customers which is just another form of subsidy, although less di rect. The vast majority of solar technology has been funded by the governme nt in one form or another, and especially the initial research. Not exactly sure what JT means by "molten salts" but it's probably the heat energy sto rage in the form of latent heat which is orders of magnitude higher density than any method not relying on phase change.

Having your molten salt freezing anywhere in the system isn't a good idea - the latent heat of fusion isn't something that's easy to exploit, unlike t he latent heat of vapourisation.

century. The main problem with salts thus far available is toxicity and ha zardous material containment. Like Obama says, "you didn't build that" is t rue of this APS too.

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It's rather difficult to fission U-235 in the presence pf U-238 and not gen erate plutonium - U-238 captures a neutron to form U-239 which decays - by beta-emission to Np-239 in a couple of minutes. Np-239 then decays to Pu-23

9 in a couple of days, again by beta-emission.

Thorium is more widely available, and might well be the nuclear fuel of cho ice if you didn't want to have the option to make bombs early on in the pro cess.

The US paid a lot of money to get to a point where they could produce a cou ple of fission bombs, and today's uranium-fueled reactors are a by-product of that process. The US thought that there was a risk that the Germans woul d get there first, which didn't leave them the option of going for thorium, and in that sense the early military involvement is responsible for the fa ct that current reactors breed plutonium, but the military didn't have a wi de range of choices.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Strange that the righties can't understand the simple fact that there are a lot less gun deaths, massacres and the like in countries where it's harder to get hold of guns. Making guns illegal doesn't prevent people getting th eir hands on them, but ti does make it more difficult, and the nett result is fewer people dead and injured by guns.

In the US, one perp managed to do both.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

It just shows that if you poo in your own back yard, sooner or later you'll be in deep shit.

I suppose there has never been a mass murder in, say, Norway. Slowman, you're a frappin' moron, but *everyone* here knows that already.

You stupid shit. That was my exactly point. It *only* happened because it was a gun-free victim zone. You dumbass lefties want to make personal safety available only to the ruling class.

e a lot less gun deaths, massacres and the like in countries where it's har der to get hold of guns. Making guns illegal doesn't prevent people getting their hands on them, but it does make it more difficult, and the nett resu lt is fewer people dead and injured by guns.

Of course there has, and in Tasmania and Scotland. One, in each place in th e last twenty years.

I can't keep track of the number of school massacres you've managed to rack up in the same time. What I said was "Making guns illegal doesn't prevent people getting their hands on them, but it does make it more difficult, and the nett result is fewer people dead and injured by guns. " which makes yo u the moron.

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And you imagine that putting an armed guard in the place would have prevent ed that? The perp would have shot him (or her) first and gone on murder jus t as many people. Arm everybody in sight, and you'll lose more people by ki ds getting hold of the guns and "playing" with them than even you idiots ca n get killed off in massacres.

And you think that owning a gun represents "personal safety"? If you had th e wit to explore the statistical evidence, you'd be aware that the person m ost likely to be killed by the gun you own is you, at your own hand. It als o increases the risk that your nearest and dearest will be successful if th ey succumb to a transitory moment of depression and try to kill themselves.

There also a risk that one of you will think that some other member of the family is a burglar and shoot them by mistake. It doesn't happen often, but the NRA doesn't publicise it with the same enthusiasm as it does the rare occasions when a gun-owner kills a real burglar.

You are exactly the sort of dumbass who can't understand that kind of obvio us fact - as I seem to have mentioned before - and you've once again advert ised this all-too-obvious fact in public, where it's going to be accessible to anybody who wants to look it up until Google goes bust.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Nicely put. :-)

Proving once again that you're a total idiot.

I've "racked up" precisely zero, moron. These could have been easily stopped, if not completely prevented. Lefties like you will hear nothing about the solution, though. Your agenda won't allow it.

You are a total idiot, Slowman. It doesn't take an armed guard, though that's a better idea than *advertising* an unprotected target. Any sociopath, like you, knows exactly where to do the most damage with minimum risk. You lefties like it that way, though.

It *CERTAINLY* does, you moron! In *ALL* of the cases, the perp could have been stopped. In the case of home invasion, it happens every day. A local woman was able to stop an invader from killing her and her two kids recently, while she talked on the phone with her husband (and 911). You haven't the first clue what you're talking about. If you really want to know the statistics, start here:

You won't, though, because not only are you too stupid, but you're a lefty so facts don't matter.

Shit happens but it is extremely rare. The numbers aren't on your side, though.

You really are a dumbshit lefty. ...but that's known to all here.

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are a lot less gun deaths, massacres and the like in countries where it's harder to get hold of guns. Making guns illegal doesn't prevent people gett ing their hands on them, but it does make it more difficult, and the nett r esult is fewer people dead and injured by guns.

the last twenty years.

If krw could do joined up logic, he/'d check the evidence before he made hi s fatuous assertions.

ack up in the same time. What I said was "Making guns illegal doesn't preve nt people getting their hands on them, but it does make it more difficult, and the nett result is fewer people dead and injured by guns. " which makes you the moron.

Dream on.

But they weren't. The Port Arthur massacre in Australia prompted a serious tightening of the gun-ownership laws and the buy-back of 631,000 guns. The population of Australia is too small for this to have had any statically si gnificant effect - gun massacres were rare in Australia before Port Arthur and have remained rare since then.

Your policy of inaction has left you with succession of gun massacres.

What "solution"? You keep on having gun massacres. They are much rarer in o ther advanced industrial countries - which happen to have significant gun c ontrol legislation.

The NRA wants to believe that more guns - in the right hands - represents a solution. The US is their test-bed and they have sacrificed a lot of innoc ent by-standers trying to build up evidence their "solution" works. This ma kes them the legislative equivalent of the gun-obsessed nutters who go out and kill a bunch of people with their guns to make some kind of lunatic poi nt. Their agenda requires it. The evidence doesn't support them.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

I Slowman were had a real brain he wouldn't be so bloody stupid.

You're a liar, Slowman. Quite obviously.

They weren't because lefties like you create gun-free victim zones.

You're full of shit, but I'm not telling anyone here anything new.

Of course not. The solution certainly isn't more idiot lefties, like you.

It's a fact.

Of course you snip everything that proves you wrong. Lefty liars do that. It defines them.

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An assertion that krw didn't - as usual - bother to support with a shred of evidence.

Krw thinks that his assertions constitute "proof". He is too dim to appreci ate the idea of evidence or the concept of using reasoned argument to demon strate that a particular line of evidence supports a particular point of vi ew. With him it's assertions all the way down.

It least he's amusing in his uncomprehending stupidity.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

I have no interest in this debate, but do have a question:

How are mentally ill people handled in Australia? Are they kept in institutions, or allowed to remain in the general population?

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In most other civilized states the posession of weapons is strictly limited and not allowed for everyone. And in most other civilized states the crime rates are much lower than in USA.

don´t repeat the dumb lies of the NRA, they seem to rule the USA.

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Bwahahahahaha!

Doesn't Slowman's existence answer your question ?>:-] ...Jim Thompson

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Murder rates in the US are lowest in those states with little or no gun control laws.

... and highest in those US states/cities with punitive levels of gun control. ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Don't confuse him with the facts JT.

And let us NOT forget what happened when we were all informed of the 'rules' of being mugged. Be polite. Be docile. Give them your wallet/purse quietly. ALL caused skyrocketing crime rates. Look at it from the thief's viewpoint. I demand money and get it, no hassle. Hmmm, no wonder the crime rate skyrocketed. Once elderly ladies started shooting assailants and muggers started getting beat about the head and shoulders, the crime rate came back down.

Doesn't Switzerland, where you are (almost) required to have gun training and have a gun in your home, have the lowest crime rate?

Does anybody have statistics on shooting deaths in the MOST gun controlled areas, US prisons? Not by guards, either.

Socialists never get confused... they know it all >:-] ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

What? Alcohol is illegal and so a citizen can't protect themselves because only the criminals have alcohol? W...hat?

When alcohol was illegal it created a *huge* market in an illegal good. This created the market force for organized crime.

How is that anything like gun control? Guns are already controlled enough that there is already a big market for illegal guns. The private ownership of guns has very little deterrent to organized crime or unorganized crime. The type of people who are breaking into a home are in two camps. The ones who are trying hard to *not* run into anyone in the home and make a clean get away. Then there are the ones who are just not good at much including being a criminal and aren't smart enough to be deterred by the possibility of the homeowner owning a gun.

For gun ownership to be a deterrent it has to be known by the criminals. Everyone I know who has guns doesn't want that fact to be known because it would make them a target for break ins. Guns are a *very* popular theft item.

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Rick

Homicide rate (per hundred thousand,

Ireland 1.3 germany 0.9 Netherlands 1.0 Norway 0.5 UK 1.4 France 1.6 canada 1.73 USA 4.8

You see: That DOES NOT INCREASE murders and other crime - on the contrary!