Lithium batteries, not worth it

Apr 14, 2023 Last reply: 3 years ago 310 Replies

Sewage Sweeper is another dim right wing troll, and should also be ignored.

Lithium isn't in the least problematic - and Sewage Sweeper is perfectly incapable of telling us why it might be.

70% of the world's cobalt production currently comes from the Congo, which is a failed state

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The fact that child labour is used there to extract cobalt is a problem with the politics of the country, not with the metal itself.

If we need more cobalt we can get is from other countries with better political systems. It won't be as cheap, but it won't be expensive enough to make batteries impractically expensive.

There's nothing mindless about the electrification of the world. On the other hand the claim that relying on burning fossil carbon to get our energy would end our dependence on batteries is entirely mindless.

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was completed in 1984. long before anybody was taking anthropogenic global warming seriously, when the UK was getting most of its electric power by burning coal. It is pumped storage facility, but it serves exactly the same purpose as a grid-scale battery.

Sewage Sweeper can be relied on to put together loads of mindless rubbish and dump it here. We prefer he took his dump someplace else.

And a damn good weapon at your disposal.

A weapon is a compact energy source that can deliver a lot of energy fast.

Hydrogen has to be burnt before it can deliver any energy at all. You could turn a tank of hydrogen into a fuel air bomb, but you have to dispense the hydrogen into a lot of air before you set it off, and it is a rather specialised and cranky weapon. You can eventually get a lot of energy out of the blast wave that follows the detonation if you get the timing right, but that's a big if.

You may be thinking of a hydrogen bomb, but getting hydrogen nuclei to fuse is even more difficult.

It would be fine if they got the charge time down to say 10 minutes. You can charge batteries in 10 minutes, I used to charge NiCad radio controlled packs in 10 minutes. As long as you don't overfill them, they're fine. Cars have cooling on the batteries don't they?

Yes, you can store equivalent amount of energy in 10 minutes for Li batteries. However, if you want to carry more energy, you need more time.

Most do, but there are exceptions.

I have never let one in, I have never voted for one, I wouldn't stop to let them cross the road. A few stupid anti-racist Brits let them in, now there's enough to let themselves in. There's one in charge of Scotland too now. We're f***ed.

Why do you bother replying without answering properly?

Actually it's 3 points per offence, but they have to see you before you see them.

The last time I went round the M25 I followed a Tesla. I don't know if it was a very skillfull driver or he had it on self drive, but he kept swapping lanes and actually gained a hell of a distance. We were getting there 2-3 times quicker than everyone else.

On most motorways there's a very good empty overtaking lane, it's officially called a hard shoulder.

You don't need more, they just grow faster.

Loads of that about.

This just shows you can prove anything you want, cut all the bullshit you're reading from Greenpeace Treehuggers and think more logically.

Is there a world shortage of these things?

Who gives a f*ck?

Don't need to, they grow faster just by giving them more. Just as you can run faster on higher concentrations of O2.

Anyone who ingests foodstuffs to live? Those nutrients being less per pound of food, means you need to buy and eat more pounds.

Grasshoppers can starve on grass that grows so fast that the roots cannot deliver enough protein content. Like you, grasshoppers eat to live. It's a vital concern.

It is most certainly not reasonably priced. They cost about the same!

No car is reasonably priced anymore. There used to be Dacia Sanderos for £6K. Now the cheapest is a £12.5K Lada. WTF? Double price?

You're confusing petrol and battery cars. One regenerates, one doesn't.

Skoda uses parts which failed the test for VW quality.

I went to a builders merchant the other week. The car park was full, but there was a car parked exactly between the two end spaces. So I parked exactly in front of them. They were f****ng furious when I left.

I've had a few makes, these are how reliable they were:

Rover: medium Ford (3 of): high Vauxhall (GM/Opel): low Renault (4 of): low Fiat: abysmal Range Rover: medium Peugeot (2 of): high VW: high

So why do I keep buying Renaults? Well the last one was £500 for a car which had only done 47K miles. Although in 5 years I've done 50K miles and spent £2500 keeping it running.

Lithium is for phones and torches. For large capacity I always use lead. Lithium is stupidly priced.

How much lead do you use? I'd be surprised it's more than your starter battery.

As if the idiot wanker had a clue.

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