60V DC dangerous?

.................the feeling of fulfilment!

Here's an experiment - go stick your knob in a light socket and see if it hurts.

Forget about compensation - it is virtually impossible to prove to a judge.

As long as you are still alive, the damage is continuing. If you cannot get the problem fixed, please leave while you are able. Call your city and find out if an inspector will come to inspect for mold. You probably have some ordinance that covers it. If the inspector agrees there is a problem, the landlord should be forced to fix it. But plan on moving or staying somewhere else while things are progressing. Landlords have all kinds of legal delaying tactics.

You should also see your doctor and have a general examination. He may find things you should know about, and he may have other suggestions on what to do. But get help - as much as you can, anywhere you can find it.

Regards,

Mike Monett

48V also typically comes from a current limiting resistor in most applications too.

Graham

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 18:31:28 +1000, "Mike Warren" Gave us:

Rabbits are known for their utter stupidity.

Then again, there are actually some people that "like" the electro-shock therapy they received.

ECT can make dramatic improvements in the lives of people with deep depression. A few treatments can be a total cure. I know a lady who had deep, suicidal depression, for no apparent reason, and a course of ECT fixed her right up. Nobody knows how it works.

John

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:46:55 -0700, John Larkin Gave us:

WTF are you talking about? I SAID READ THE THREAD, dipshit.

I did an AC test using live line voltage, and increased contact patch surface area to increase the current. All the way up until my arms were curling up.

You're the whimp if you think I am a whimp for not rushing off and doing your challenge. I've been there... done that. You guys probably think that that is why I am the way I am... ;-]

Try this:

Take a car coil primary and a seriesed array of D cells ohhh six or eight long.

Place a momentary switch (normally open) in line with the coil, either primary lead.

Place either a 1.0 Ohm, or a 0.1 Ohm resistor in series with the switch. scope it if you like, otherwise capture data samples from it with a data logging meter.

Take two five inch long by 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch aluminum rods, and tape a 30 inch single pull from a zip cord on it with about an inch and one half of bared wire strands wrapped on the first (or last) inch of a rod. Crimp a #6 ring lug on each wire tail, and attach each to one side or the coil primary.

When you attach the 1.5 volt first cell and close the normally open switch, you induce a "standing field" of magnetism. When you re-open the switch, that field collapses back down into the coil at a very fast slew rate, and a huge EMF is generated. If you are holding the rods, one in each hand, you will feel a jolt. If you read your data, you will see the closed switch DC resistance current through the coil. When the switch opens, there will be a huge current spike as a huge voltage spike was induced, and you were the load.

I would not attempt to read the voltage as the spike can damage your meter. It can be accomplished by way of utilizing an HV probe (I recommend a 40kV version).

Anyway, as you move the voltage up by adding cells to the stack, you will note a point where the little fun jolts aren't so fun anymore.

You should be able to do some current level extrapolations from your logged data by now. Later, you can make a circuit that pulses the coil. DC on just long enough to establish the field, then BANG... collapse the input voltage, and watch the spike that results. You could likely come up with some very dangerous frequencies, and waveshapes.

This is the very basis for what we call a "TENS" unit.

A Trans-Cutaneous Electro Nerve Stimulator.

I would have one of those newfangled "eyewash station" style hung on the wall de-fib kits handy if ever doing experiments like this. They are only a few $k each.

The car coils from the "Model T"s would flat knock you on your ass doing this jolt stuff.

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 00:16:14 +1000, "APR" Gave us:

Good job, dumbass. How old are you?

Yeah... yeah... I know... You're gonna say "he did the same thing"... essentially.

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:10:29 -0700, John Larkin Gave us:

So... when did you take up drinking?

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:21:04 GMT, "ian field" Gave us:

Mold is a bad health hazard. Have it repaired or move quickly.

If it is an apartment with a landlord, he may be obligated to keep the structure free of such health hazards, and could be liable for more than merely cleaning it up. Then, it depends where one live, I suppose.

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:22:56 GMT, "ian field" Gave us:

Not at all. There is a LOT of evidence available, and your health condition can even be one. If you smell it, it is still present, and he didn't clean up anything.

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:26:15 GMT, "ian field" Gave us:

How revealing...

Well, yeah, to some extent I'm sure most things have a nonlinear i-v. Why are you wondering this? (Relevence to current discussion?)

Mark

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I have a theory that it works by randomly deleting memories. The depression or whatever else is the result of something remembered. If you happen to remove that memory, the person is cured. One of the "side effects" has always been memory troubles.

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She seems perfectly normal to me now. If memories are randomly deleted, I'd expect that ECT would have to absolutely wreck her brain before it accidentally hit on the specific bad memories causing the problems. And there are other fixes for depression (like drugs, exercize, or in the case of bipolar depression, just waiting a couple weeks) that have nothing to do with altering memories.

It's more likely a chemical thing.

John

Because it seemed like that in my DC experiment, and because I was born curious.

John

When I was about 16. In New Orleans in those days, drinking age was 18 and nobody checked IDs. I have been seriously drunk only a few times in my life, but as I get older I seem to get less tolerant of alcohol. When we're in a really wild mood, Mo and I may split a beer, or have a couple of very small glasses of wine. Unlike some people I know, I'm a happy drunk. Some people drink and get mad-dog mean... so why do they drink?

John

"Stop being crazy, and we'll stop torturing you."

ECT is now done under general anaesthetic, with muscle relaxers I think, and isn't violent or dramatic. They just run some current through a brain.

John