Apple throttled your iPhone by cutting its speed almost in HALF!

You've spent hours upon hours every day trolling a newsgroup for products you dislike and attacking complete strangers because everything Apple does shakes the very foundation of your belief system. You're a sad old fart whose only "joy" in life is disrupting otherwise peaceful newsgroups. Pathetic old man.

You misunderstand me, but it's because we don't share the same belief system.

You see, I have Apple products, which I buy all the time, just as I have Android (and Windows & Linux & other products, such as WISP radios that Jeff Liebermann knows we need here in the mountains).

The difference between you and me, besides our vast education gap, is that you have a belief system which is vulnerable to facts, while my belief system simply gets stronger with facts.

That's why you hate me so much, but why I love you.

Nah. You just suck ass as a human being.

So, why are you engaging, and feeding the troll?

snipped-for-privacy@Onramp.net wrote on 1/7/2018 2:01 PM:

How can you make that assertion?

nospam wrote on 1/7/2018 1:42 PM:

Everything wears out. If I sold autos and gave a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty and had customers who's cars used a quart or two of oil between changes during the warranty period, would you think it reasonable that I said, "engines wear, oil burns, no warranty claim" and then secretly updated firmware in all my customer's engines, that prevented the oil leak/burn but prevented the engine from running at full capacity?

No one would tolerate this from any manufacturer.

Harry may be a bit of a odd ball, but he is right that you are blowing smoke about this. The fact that batteries wear does not mean a phone can't be designed that won't have it's performance limited by the battery during the warranty period. Get over it and quit saying "batteries age" like it is a holy mantra. Yeah, they age and the product should be designed with that in mind so the product still works 100% during the warranty period.

That's an easy one... when they wear out in the warranty period, replace them as defective. But it may go beyond that since this is clearly a design flaw. In that case there may be additional compensation since the replacement battery will also likely become defective in the same way.

Given the typical usage pattern of phones, in warranty battery replacement would be adequate compensation I suppose.

Worn out batteries may not be covered by the warranty.

Why would the CPU overheat? Most computers are designed with adequate cooling capacity. Overheating in a phone would be very bad. High temperatures in a phone heat the Lithium battery which can in extreme cases catch fire.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

"May not"? Why wouldn't a battery be covered under warranty? It isn't specifically excluded.

If the battery in your vehicle wore out in that first 36,000 miles, it woul d not be covered under the warranty. No more so than the tires, wiper blade s, brake pads, engine oil, oil filter, air filter, nor any other wearing pa rt, fluid or filter. We are not discussing the phone, hardware or software. We are discussing the functional equivalent of a wearing part, fluid or fi lter.

NOTE: Some tires, brake pads, batteries and such carry *SEPARATE* warrantie s. And there is where you would go if applicable. No warranty, no issue.

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I said "may" as warranties vary by country. In the US: "This Warranty does not apply: (a) to consumable parts, such as batteries..."

Go read the warranty for your location.

they didn't wear out.

the batteries work perfectly fine in normal everyday use.

only the absolute maximum was limited, and only slightly.

it's not a design flaw and affects all devices that use batteries. it's a limitation of today's battery technology.

it's also not just apple. here's one example of many:

A federal class action complaint has been filed accusing Google and Huawei of fraud, breaching warranty and improperly handling customer complaints after a number of Nexus 6P smartphones unexpectedly shut down and became trapped in "boot loop" cycles. ... The Nexus 6P hit the market in late 2015. It's a $500 smartphone with a 5.7 inch screen that was, overall, a welcome improvement over the previous year's Nexus 6. As long as it didn't suddenly shut off with full battery, that is. ... The Nexus 6P joins a handful of other past-gen Android phones embroiled in lawsuits over dysfunctional devices, including LG's G4, V10, G5, V20 and even the Nexus 5X.

batteries are excluded because they are a consumable part.

only if it's defective is it covered under warranty. normal wear and tear is *not* covered.

if the battery fails a diagnostic test (or any other component) it will be replaced under warranty. if it passes, then there's no reason to replace it.

because the user is doing something cpu intensive for an extended period of time causing the cpu to get hot.

they are, for normal everyday use. push it hard, such as playing a graphics intensive game, and it will get warm, possibly very warm.

there are no fans in a mobile phone. there is no room for a large heatsink on the processor.

if it gets too warm, it has to throttle.

yep, which is why it has to be throttled.

I don't own an Apple Phone

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote on 1/10/2018 9:47 AM:

So, every car comes with a battery warranty. If it fails to start your car within the warranty period you get a replacement. Why are you arguing this?

you don't need to own one to read the warranty information.

here's what motorola has to say:

... This Warranty Does Not Apply to: (a) Consumable parts, such as batteries or protective coatings designed to diminish over time unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship. As with all batteries, the maximum capacity of the battery will decrease with time and use; this is not a defect. Only defective batteries and batteries that leak are covered by this warranty.

note the key sentence: As with all batteries, the maximum capacity of the battery will decrease with time and use; this is not a defect.

nospam wrote on 1/10/2018 10:02 AM:

Did you read this in the Apple warranty? I'd like to see a copy.

The only test I really care about is running the phone the way it did when new. If it doesn't do that the diagnostic test is pointless.