The Tesla is SLOOOOOWWWWWWWW!

Actually, the beauty of electric propulsion is that you get much smoother acceleration and deceleration than with a conventional vehicle.

In most circumstances I don't wait for the car to charge at all, it charges while I'm asleep or doing something else.

The aesthetics of many modern EVs are hardly distinguishable from conventional vehicles as they have the same goals and we've already posted evidence that conventional vehicles are much more likely to catch fire than EVs. ... kw

maybe this:

bodies, 5/8 scale old american car style and a 1200cc motorcycle engine

I know what you mean, because I drive one. But it's hard to explain to someone else. It's not just the lack of vibration, like it's not just the lack of noise either. It feels like you have infinite control over the power, effortlessly. It really is different from an ICE, fundamentally.

Yeah, again, until you have one, and use it for a while, getting used to it, this just doesn't seem to sink in with people. As Bill is fond of pointing out, cars are parked 95% of the time. Charge anytime it's parked.

Larkin isn't aware of any other BEVs than Teslas. He seems to have taken a dislike to Musk, and transferred that to Tesla. So now he can't reason around the idea that Teslas represent all BEVs and he must hate them. I haven't heard him complain about the lack of charging in Truckee, other than the two sites which he also complains are always free. Weird guy.

NASCAR is all about the tailgate party in the infield. (I've never been, but I'm reliably informed by my Texas relatives.)

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Phil Hobbs

That's what I grew up with. Most of the cars were coupes from the '30s and '40s converted to a race car under the shade tree. The tracks were

1/4 mile dirt so speeds weren't excessive and they were outlaw tracks, not NASCAR affiliated. Skill and balls, or insanity if you will, was more important than equipment.

I never got into NASCAR with its purpose built 'stock cars' costing thousands of dollars. I went to a Gran Prix race at Watkins Glen once and that was even more boring than NASCAR.

Uh... that describes every car on the road that has locks. Driving isn't the glorious unicorns-and-rainbows experience that you imagined at age four. Esthetically, I'm told this is a superb teapot

but tastes may vary.

I saw one Legends race and it was fun. There were more body styles so it looked more like a '50s stock car race.

There was a micro sprint track here that was also interesting. They're karts on steroids with 600cc bike engines:

Both are attempts to have races that don't require hundreds of thousands to get into sort of like the Formula Vee for that style of racing. Somehow cubic cash always beats cubic inches though.

thousands? a Nascar cup team probably spends tens of millions a year

I stumbled onto a drift meet in the parking lot of an abandoned lumber mill (followed the sound of screeching tires). At first I thought it was a time trial with exceeding poor drivers until I realized spinning out on every turn was sort of the point. I'm too frugal with tires to get into that.

sometimes sideways is fast ;)

Well, I didn't say how many thousands... :) I knew it was a lot but was too lazy to research it and didn't want to overstate it.

It's an offbeat film with Jim Caviezel that I enjoyed based on a true story. Madison IN is a river town that sponsors an unlimited hydroplane, Miss Madison, on a shoestring budget. Blow an engine and it's done. Budweiser sponsored the Miss Budweiser with very deep pockets.

They bring the boat to one meet and the scene shows about 8 identical engines lined up to swap in if the Miss Budweiser blows one up.

They're still racing but they've got real sponsors now.

I learned to drive on roads like that and am not adverse to a little sideways. Fortunately with this Yaris I can turn of the traction and stability control. I couldn't on the previous one and a couple of times when I got playful I found myself parked in the middle of the road with the car refusing to move until I drove like an adult. Toyota even has a note in the owner's manual saying stability control doesn't work well on dirt and traction control makes it impossible to rock the car out of snow.

Doing a controlled 4 wheel slide was what I always associated with 'drift'. It wasn't until I say Tokyo Drift that I realized it had become an art form. I still think it's extreme to turn a FWD Corolla into RWD.

So what? This demonstrates the dramatically lower cross-country speed that you can expect driving an EV (assuming that you can even find an EV charging station off of the main highways).

At some dinky rural gas startion and hot dog emporium, a gas truck can show up every few weeks and reload the tanks. It might not be good economics to run 20 miles of megwatt power lines.

And the gas truck delivers how many megawatt-hours of energy in its one load of fuel per 'few weeks'?

There's 20 miles of road in this story, too; power lines aren't the biggest connection cost that was jusified here.

Ballpark 200.

One advantage of gasoline is that it stores energy. An electric charging station doesn't. So the feed line has to support peak load. The gas truck only has to deliver the average load.

It is truly amazing how far people have to reach to find reasons to hate BEVs.

It is hard to find a place where you would want to charge that doesn't have sufficient electric service to allow charging. People have to reach deep into the well to find something to complain about. It must be a very unhappy life that makes someone hate so much what others do. No one is making him do anything... at least, not yet. In 15 or so years he'll have trouble finding a gas station when they are mostly closed down or turned into laundromats.

Actually, that was something I thought about, might have posted here a few weeks ago. They used to have laundromats with bars for city dwellers. They could do the same thing, but include car charging! lol

I guarantee in just a few years, there will be some very creative businesses based around giving a free charge while you do something fun. Remember drive in movies? There were two in my city and my brother and I always wanted to go to the one that had a playground in front of the screen! They were actually pretty fun for kids. We often fell asleep during the movie though. I seem to recall they had a lot of double features and we hardly ever saw the second one. Even a single feature could put 60 miles on a BEV.

It's going to be an interesting BEV world.

Easily replaceable battery packs would solve that problem but I don't see that happening with the current skateboard chassis designs.

The lithium supply will be further stressed when all cars are electric and there are two battery packs per car.

Swappable battery packs would have to be some standard size and interface. Possibly several small packs per car or many per truck.