The Bear is Back

"John Larkin" skrev i meddelelsen news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

For some irrational reason I actully prefer a nationalist Russian empire over the present "Islam is our Friend"-America and the all-inclusive EU.

"John Larkin" skrev i meddelelsen news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

I Told you lot Already that Putin would find a way to exact revenge over Kosovo - And Georgia probably made the mistake of believing the NATO+US "solidarity" bullcrap, while ignoring that the pair is currently too busy losing wars in third-world nations to even care.

You are carrying "irrational" to extremes.

John

The BoB was a very close thing. One thing that surely tipped the difference was the Merlin engine in the Hurricanes and Spitfires. It ran on a high-octane gasoline that was made specifically for them in Texas. The Germans weren't aware that gas could be manufactured in quantity that good, so designed their engines for lower compression ratios.

Not to mention that we fed the Brits, and a lot of ships and crews went down in the cause. Defeating the Luftwaffe is hungry work.

As far as rules-the-waves, again navies run on fuel, and Britain doesn't have much.

John

On a sunny day (Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:19:36 -0700) it happened John Larkin wrote in :

US would be very lucky if it could supply its own oil like the UK did:

North Sea oil .. the reason Blair was so pro Bush: high oil prices mean more money, and Iraq was competition. UK number 11 of oil exporting countries:

And Netherlands number 14!

We obviously had enough, and IIRC it wasn't free when the USA made the offer.

Even without the middle eastern distractions, what could we do that the Europeans would support?

Isn't Europe awfully fond and customer for half of Russia's oil, funding Putin ?

(Which would be angrily pointed to later, if the US were doing it, as proof of being cozy with / supporting tyrants.)

I'd think Europeans would hesitate to object, what with winter coming and all.

Best wishes, James Arthur

So, all the vegetables will be sold pre-sliced?

John

About 1% of the world's oil flows through Georgia, into Europe, and it's not under Putin's control. I think he doesn't like that.

(They use some of my VME tach modules in the pumping stations along the way.)

John

My SIG says it all ;-)

...Jim Thompson

How about letting the middle east blow *itself* up for once? Allow Darwinian selection to do it's work so to speak - about 60% of the European population would support that in spite of (or perhaps because of) the whining of their politicians.

Yep - Better pay money to Russians than Saudis; the latter being infinitely short on science, engineering, humour, tolerance, wimmen and drink!

The European politicians will whine and fret over Georgia but nothing will come of it - apparently Mikhail Saakashvili bought the NATO sales crap just like the Marsh Arabs in Iraq did (The value of the words of Western officials are going the same way as the USD ;-).

The Danish media has already been briefed by the "Ministry of Truth" and are already supporting Georgia. However most bloggers and readers letters in the newspapers think that Georgia Kosovo so since the EU/US can go bomb the crap out of some country to support an uprising for some politically expedient purpose then indeed, so should Russia!

Besides people are getting more than a little fed up with the expansion of NATO and the EU - mainly because we feel that we are being overrun by immigrants and crap legislation from Bruxelles already. We dont need even more of that so a decent Russian spanner in the works is a good thing.

"Jim Thompson" skrev i meddelelsen news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

The Europeans are not worried about the Russians "taking back Europe", they never had Europe in the first place and we also don't get a lot of grief from the Russians living here, unlike other ethnics that seem determined to bite the hand that pays their social security at every opportunity.

More to the point: We Europeans are a lot more worried about the Arabs and/or the Turks having yet another go at conquering/plundering Europe first through mass immigration followed by uprisings within the EU borders. There is also the nagging suspicion that in the case of a real uprising that must be crushed, then the US would be siding with the rioters to suck up to Saudi Arabia (like they did with Kosovo).

The Russians would not do that because we share the same history there.

Not all of them. Some are ruining the country.

John

I guess the main fly in that ointment is our allegiance with Israel, which stands otherwise alone, an island in a stormy sea.

I was asking "what could the US do?" in the Russia-Georgia dispute.

You commented that we're currently too busy elsewhere to care about Georgia; I was saying there's not much we could do there regardless.

AFAICT that's the only way things get sorted out, in conflicts throughout history. When two peoples want the same territory, the solution usually entails victor and vanquished, and lots of dead people.

The Russians are closer culturally, yes.

You are being overrun in a way, aren't you? Being forced into cultural changes and adjustments?

The US has been dealing with this for decades (and more gracefully than we get credit for).

Consider some of our demographics in these adjacent cities:

My phone bill is available in something like 17 different languages, as are most government services, including courts, the Department of Motor Vehicles, education, etc.

You'll notice that Santa Ana is 76% Hispanic, which is to say mostly Mexican, from Mexico, non-english speaking, different culture, etc., virtually a foreign country unto itself. A city-state.

Take a Google drive down the streets of Los Angeles, or San Francisco, and be amazed at the many peoples who live here.

Cheers, James Arthur

Live here and get along fine.

John

They never really went away, just laid low, and at >100 barrel, they have money for global tom-foolery.... guesss they are not gonna get any contract manufacturing like the good commies get :-)

Marc

On a sunny day (Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:00:08 +0200) it happened "Frithiof Jensen" wrote in :

It is a false picture, from both of you. I know this, from experience, dunno about frisco, but other cities, New York, Miami, LA, I have been there, I have been in the 'dangerous' areas, gang territory so to speak, and _unless_ you seriously respect them and know what you are doing, you can well be robbed or killed. I'd say Europe is a whole lot safer, like for example Amsterdam, but nothing is ever 100% safe. It all depends how you manifest yourself.

A 'drive' as in a car is probably quite safe, in LA, but a walk can put you in all sorts of situations.

There are safer cities too, but for exmple London seems to have become a nono lately.

Cheers! Rich