OT: Old Mozilla to new Thunderbird, how to get emails over?

What does the new 'puter use, pellet-to-DC converter ?:-) ...Jim Thompson

Easiest method is to create new accounts, go to Tools->Account Settings->Server Settings to find where TBird put them, then just copy over the old ones using XCOPY or cut-n-paste. TBird gets confused for a bit but eventually sorts itself out.

Another approach is to copy the old ones into that directory using different names, then use TBird to copy all the messages over.

A pain, isn't it?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

That's what I have tried. But it does not show anything, not one of the old emails :-(

Ok, thanks, I'll try that. I just don't know how I can make T-Bird show them on screen. Right now it doesn't and then it can't copy.

Oh yeah. I am tempted to find a copy of the really old integrated Mozilla suite because it works and I'd have this project off my back. But SWMBO said some of her coupon redemption sites don't work anymore because some script kiddies obviously have over-sophisticated them too much for older browsers. We need to get the old class of IT engineers out of the retirement homes and back to work.

Too futuristic. I am thinking about a wood carburetor.

Alright! Integrated printer :-)

Is this under windows or Linux??

Cheers

Ian

When you live with antiques you don't think about them. My father's hardware store started out with a cash register that you had to turn the crank... but it never lost a transaction ;-) ...Jim Thompson

You have to delete the indexes, i.e. the .msf files.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:24:15 -0800) it happened Joerg wrote in :

You avoid that shit by using Linux and 'pine' as email program. Been using it for 12 years, still perfect.

With numerous restarts I now have them show up under the local folder. Despite the fact that only my wife's email acount points to that directory. Makes no sense. Needless to say neither emailing nor receiving works.

Maybe it's time to ditch it and load an older TB copy. In software older is usually better.

Can't do that because that easily opens another can of worms. WLAN driver not available, modem doesn't work, soundcards, etc. Plus I don't like the way Linux handles directory writing privileges (or rather, doesn't handle). I have Linux in a VM here on the PC, to try out gEDA and stuff.

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:50:58 -0800) it happened Joerg wrote in :

Just get a PC for a few hundred $ and install a Linux version on it. Linux or rather Unix is the only system that does privileges right. Here everything works... For Linux a PC with much less horsepower will do. VMs suck for things like this. They are nice if you run several servers commercially perhaps. But even then they suck.

Sadly, many engineering apps aren't available under Linux.

Thunderbird 2.0.0... works great, as does Firefox. XP ain't bad, as long as you don't run Microsoft apps under it. Microsoft never did figure out how to write good Windows apps.

Tbird Firefox + add-ons Appcad PADS PowerBasic Irfanview Crimson Editor LT Spice Cute PDF Foxit Viewer TXline RFSIM99 FilterPro Google home page with gadgets

all are solid under Windows. I do use Word 2003, which is barely tolerable.

Chrome looks promising. It sure is fast.

Anybody use Sonnet Lite? I've got to learn to drive that one of these days.

John

Totally different opinion here. If I can't write into a CAD model directory without logging in as sudo that sucks.

And I'm not going to buy a new PC.

Ok, but I've had numerous discussions in other NGs and with friends where the end result was "Oh, this won't work under Linux". In business, that doesn't really fly.

But let's not get into the usual Lin-Win pissing contest. Linux is nice for some applications and it is safe. It's just not for everyone.

Actually the VM works very nicely. Runs Ubuntu without a hitch. It's just that after playing around with it for a couple months I didn't like Ubuntu that much and the CAD stuff I tried out isn't going to work either for various reasons. At least not for analog designs.

PDFCreator is nice, too.

Try Word 2000. Much better IMHO.

Gents, thanks for your help. Got it to work, mostly by numerous restarts and kicking it. The stored emails landed in the wrong account but, oh well, since my wife will be the only users it doesn't matter as long as emailing works.

I don't think the new TB 3.0 is as good as 2.0.0.6, maybe after Christmas I'll downgrade it. But for now it works, sort of.

In future, get a gmail account and hope that Google's back up strategy keeps them safe.

chmod g+w ... or: chmod g+w,+t ...

if you want to ensure that you don't accidentally delete existing files.

or: if you really want, you just can make the entire filesystem ugo+rwx, just like FAT.

At least Unix software normally only cares about the actual permissions, rather than the common Windows "you must be an administrator" errors based upon the (erroneous) assumption that a particular file or directory will only be writable by an administrator (clearly the developers weren't aware that you *can* actually change the permissions).