Global warming?

Jan 07, 2010 83 Replies

The Met Office admit a warming bias

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The Met Office admits its annual global mean forecast predicted temperatures higher than actual temperatures for nine years out of the last 10.

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The really interesting thing about the AGW mania, from an engineer's perspective, is that it has a decent chance of being the greatest scientific blunder in human history. That would change all sorts of things.

John

What is scarry is the attitude that if the models don't agree with the measurements then the measurements are wrong.

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Professor Chris Folland from the Met Office said a re-analysis of weather science might even show that the actual temperature measurements have under-recorded recent warming - making the Met Office forecast even more accurate than it appears.

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The measurements just have to be adjusted.

One of the ClimateGate quotes has a prominent researcher hoping that we will have catastrophic global warming so that his models can be proven correct.

John

Exxon-Mobil's investment in denying global warming has a rather better chance of being the greatest economic blunder in human history.

When they get sued for their part in submerging New York, London, Amsterdam and all the other global cities under the rising sea-level there will be much comment on the trifling investment required to produce sucn an enormous liability.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Ravinghorde knows very little about the measurements, and even less about the models, but his infallible conspiracy theory allows him to tell us what is really going on.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

More bad science:

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I bet there's a lot more to come.

John

The floodgates are starting to leak. Soon, it will all come gushing across the spillways. :)

Greed is the root of all eBay.

Range of eco scares being test marketed to replace AGW:

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Ludicrous.

Why don't they get worked up over a *real* environmental hazard, namely particulates from wood fires and diesel and coal? Too easy to fix, I suppose.

John

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Nitrous oxide is nearly 300 times as potent as carbon dioxide ? considered the leading cause of climate change ? and the third most threatening greenhouse gas overall.

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According to UC Irivne yesterday green spaces are bad and give off test market idea 1, nitrous oxide.

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These emissions include nitrous oxide released from soil after fertilization. Nitrous oxide is a greenhouse gas that?s 300 times more powerful than carbon dioxide, the Earth?s most problematic climate warmer.

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Naw, way too little to use as a "permanent" tax base to fund programs = that do not work.

There are catalytic converters for wood stoves.

Greed is the root of all eBay.

More IPCC fraud:

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John

All the peer review bs from BS is proving to be bs.

Indeed. I found the following quite alarming.

"US Weather Bureau Report

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.'

until I discovered that this report was from November 2, 1922 as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post some 87+ years ago. Surely the sky should have fallen by now..... if it is going to.

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According to the following data, 1922 was right near the peak of a transient warming trend in Norway. The same graph slows an upward trend over the last century or so of roughly 1 degree C. The sky may not have fallen yet, but those gradually increasing peaks are threatening to impale some angels.

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-- Joe

Michael A. Terrell schrieb:

Hello,

one very cold winter and you foget all the very mild winters of the last decades? Wait for the winters of the next decades and the next very cold one.

Bye

Sigh. Do you know where Ocala is? Or that the entire region used to be full of citrus groves? Maybe you missed that they all froze out and died, after 150 years? Do you know 'anything' other than politically motivated BS? Do you ever think for yourself?

Greed is the root of all eBay.

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