Anyone hear of a 120V clothes dryer? (2023 Update)

Divert the drain outlet into a tub. Wash dishes. Measure.

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Jasen Betts
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Yes, detergent for hand-washing has to consider the effects on your skin (often advertised on the packaging) and this compromises the cleaning action (you would not want to remove all fat from your skin, but you would want to remove it from the dishes).

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Rob

Over here in the Netherlands, almost everyone uses gas for heating. But we are in a transition towards using other methods. Of course direct electric heating is never considered.

I don't know the situation in Germany except that they are further than us in migrating the electricity generation towards solar.

Heating using electricity (via heat pumps) using solar is not very practical because solar energy is usually not available at the time you want heating. Solar is very effective for powering air conditioning.

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Rob

No, that is wrong. Condensing water takes (a lot!) of heat energy out of it. That has to go somewhere.

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Rob

After thinking a bit more about it, you even might want to have one!

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Rob

Really? Who do you think you're fooling? You don't have a clue in hell what you're talking about. The so-called process is loaded by the heat removal, block the airflow and watch the wattage consumption hit bottom to see this, and since getting the air cooled to blow over the condenser has less than ideal efficiency, it doesn't make the "pump" compressor "work less hard."

You're just a pretentious troll.

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Fred Bloggs

You're a blithering idiot.

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Fred Bloggs

None of this material is top secret, it is available lots of places and simply explained. No one needs to hear your fantasizing about how anything works.

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Fred Bloggs

So there's a minor detail of this place being a "shop" and not a climate controlled finished space. Was going to say if you have to run the dehumidifier 24/7, the construction is cheap with major air leaks and other means of moisture infiltration. It would be simpler to rehabilitate the construction by sealing the air and water leaks.

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Fred Bloggs

Fine Homebuilding has a ton of articles and books on fixing air leaks:

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You might save yourself a bundle with a 5$ tube of calk and some elbow grease. I wouldn't put up with you have for 5 minutes.

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Fred Bloggs

That doesn't necessarily follow. Many folks here set up (wood) shops in their extra garage bays (because we don't have basements and the womenfolk tend to get annoyed at having lathes set up in spare bedrooms!) which are "climate controlled". In fact, it is almost essential if you want to store any lumber, steel, etc. around (the alternative being outdoors -- or, in the forbidden bedrooms!).

Likewise, without knowing WHERE he is located, it isn't possible to imagine the reason for the "problems". Living in New England, basements were often "high humidity" just as a consequence of the wetter environment and the lack of below-grade air circulation. We ran a dehumidifier in our "laundry room" to help keep the air, there, less humid (the extra heat thrown off in the "furnace room" eliminated the need for it, there. and, the workshop was too busy with tools to bother with such "obstructions")

Here, we'd consider adding humidification to help improve comfort levels. I'm fond of running the swamp cooler in the Summer (before Monsoon) as the cool, moist air feels delightful on my skin. But, SWMBO dislikes it. And, given the nature of a democracy, her vote counts more than mine (so I have to tolerate year round refrigeration)

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Don Y

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Fred Bloggs

I worked as a dish-washer in college; the plates and flatware were put through an industrial-sized conveyor-belt dishwasher but the cookware was scrubbed by hand by a small crew and then soaked in a tub of some rather foul-smelling disinfectant (Iodophor) before a rinse and set out to air-dry.

The best way to get stuff clean with a minimum of water is scrub them! No automatic dishwashers physically scrub the stuff you put in them AFAIK.

Those touchless "laser car washes" do okay but they use a huge lot of water to do what you can do better with a car mop and a few buckets of soapy water.

Those old-style "flapper" ones tend to be the worst, the newer designs I think can do better in theory but in my experience they tend to run the conveyor belt too fast to increase throughput and the car never gets as clean as the water jets from the touchless place can do, particularly the roof. Never been to an automatic car wash that was worth a shit with respect to getting the roof very clean.

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bitrex

Or had servants in general. Servants used to be cheap.

I hope you aren't developing a poop fetish like some other people here.

The big liberating factor, for men and for women, was technology, specifically electric power. While the women were doing housework and minding kids (with no public schools to help) the men were plowing and digging and hauling, with maybe an animal to help if they could afford one.

It took hundreds of men to run a sailing ship. The new concept is none.

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jlarkin

I've read the San Francisco electrical code. I've never met a licensed electrician who has.

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jlarkin

As I recall there were some large stainless-steel triple sinks specifically for this process, there was the scrub-sink, the disinfectant-sink, and the rinse-sink.

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bitrex

There's a major detail of being in my basement, which I mentioned multiple times, but ok. Being a "shop" is the reason (tools), not the cause (construction). I think most houses should have a 24/7 dehumidifier in the basement to prevent mold and mildew, at least in this part of the world (New England).

It's "on" 24/7 (I have an external drain on it). It only runs when the humidity is too high. It typically doesn't need to do anything in the winter, which I mentioned, and we're between seasons, which I mentioned. "between seasons" here means rain, so outside is 90% or higher humidity, but cooler than room temperature (currently: 59F 92%).

All this means that the geothermal is not running (neither heating nor cooling) but the dehumidifier is, and as a side effect, the basement is slightly warmer than normal.

When we had geothermal installed, the house was tested. It was so tight they recommended a fresh air exchanger. We built the house ourselves and it's definitely not cheaply built.

Of course, it's not my place to tell you what to believe ;-)

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DJ Delorie

Do electronic hardware engineers follow and standards/codes of practice? I don't know if they have a standardization setup similar to software designers - so please treat this as a neutral question.

If there is some sort of ISO how many hardware engineers follow them?

It is disturbing if SF licenced electricians don't follow code - assuming the SF code was been drawn up by electrical engineers and not bureaucrats that is...

John :-#)#

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John Robertson

Then you have moisture permeating the basement walls and or floor. Did you install a french drain down to the footer level (and pump the water to daylight away from the house), waterproof the exterior of the basement walls, and use a water/vapor under the concrete slab? Omit just one of these and you end up with a problem.

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Fred Bloggs

There's your point of confusion, different contexts. "hand-wash 5 dishes and some knives and forks". Now do you understand? Someone living single doesn't wait a couple of weeks to wash a full load of dishes and utensils and probably doesn't have much in the way of pots. It doesn't take many pots to pour a bowl of cereal or microwave popcorn.

How do they get more clean than clean? If you are pulled over and a cop asks you to pull over, what do you do, pull over more? What does that mean? (Supertroopers)

I'm gonna need that $130 when you can get it.

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Rick C

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