LCD Backlight repair on a HP Pavillion N5350 laptop

May 11, 2006 9 Replies

My backlight just went out one day on my laptop. After browsing around, I found that it was most likely the inverter chip. I found a replacement one and put it in. The backlight worked great for about 1 day. During that time, I had taken the opportunity to fix a noisy CPU fan and clean out the dust from the heatsink. By the time I had everything back together, the backlight wouldn't come on again. I assumed that the inverter had failed, and tried another one. Still no backlight. Either I messed something up when I had it open, or I have developed another problem.



I tried checking the voltage coming out of the High Voltage side of the inverter, and it stays at just around 5VAC on my meter. I thought that this meant that the inverter wasn't working properly, but I have since read that the inverter will probably switch off if the light isn't attached.



The input to the inverter is a 6 pin connector. I checked the continuity of each line on the cable, and even took off the fiber wrapping to verify the wires were not shorted, and everything looked fine. It appears that two lines are +5V, two are ground, and there are two other independant lines. One is at +2V and the other is at 0V. I know that there is probably a line to tell the inverter to turn on, and one to determine how bright to make the backlight. I am guessing that the 0V is the actuation line, but I am hesitant to pull it up to +5 without being sure. I traced that line to a riser board and down to the video card, but will have to dismantle most of the laptop to extract the video card and trace it further. I can do this if needed.



I should point out that the LCD appears to function correctly, at certain angles I can clearly make out the data on the screen, and it looks fine.



I am a novice at electronics repair. I am a software engineer but am making my way into electrical engineering. This will be my first repair of this sort.



My tools are somewhat limited, I have a nice multimeter, and an old scope.



In you guys' expert opinions, where should I go from here? I have a hard time believing that I was shipped two defective inverters. Could the first have blown the CCFL? How can I be certain without dismantling the LCD unit? How likely is it that something on the video card is going haywire when the LCD image is fine? I didn't disturb the video card when messing with the cpu fan.


I will be glad to give more details, pictures, run tests etc. Just let me know what you need.



Thanks,



Andrew



Probably the lamp is on its last legs and the inverter is detecting this.

BTW- never measure the output of an unloaded CCFL inverter with an electronic meter, you can easily fry it unless it is rated for the very high offload voltages. An analogue meter should be safe though.

Dave

I never saw any indication of a failing CCFL. The light had been nice and bright, no dimming, discoloration, or flickering. It has always either been on or off. How can I make sure that it is the CCFL?

Thanks for the advice on the metering. My meter is rated at 1000VAC, but I guess I need to have the lamp connected when I check it?

By replacing it unfortunately!

Yes, but it won't help if it's shutting down straight away.

Dave

Some CCFL inverters can generate several KV p-p offload.

Dave

Is there a standard pinout for the 6 pin connector for these boards? If I was sure that the inverter was getting the correct input, I would be more comfortable blaming the CCFL. I will start looking for a replacement though.

Is it common for a ccfl to blow after replacing the inverter?

Thanks for your help.

More to the point, it's likely a weak CCFL was the issue from the start, and the inverter was shutting down- they do that by design. It's possible the new inverter's shutdown detection threshhold was slightly different, giving the illusion that all was well for a while. You may find the old inverter works fine with a new CCFL, it's impossible to say for sure.

I can fix these things quite easily when they're in front of me, but it's very hard to make accurate internet guesses.

Dave

Some inverters burn up if they are powered without a load as well

- Mike

Ok. I took the CCFL out this weekend. What a pain. It does look like it may have burned out. It looks like the connection on one side may be burnt. I need to get some calipers and measure it and I will order a replacement.

Thanks,

Andrew

Yes, often they can be a real swine to get out. Good luck with the repair.

Dave

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