Wither S.R.B.P.

Exactamente.

That's the ticket: You've got to take a risk and build up the personnel to support such new markets.

I am doing exactly that with a new client but my part will be the engineering aspects. Taking an industrial use technology into medical. And here I wanted to migrate away from medical because PL coverage is now pretty much unobtanium in the US. Every time I skadaddle away from medical someone comes with a lasso and ropes me back in.

Everytime I cut this stuff the smell reminds me of my childhood. Digikey still sells phenolic Vector board:

So if I order 20 boards the shipping cost will be much the same but I save 160 yuens in board costs.

Indeed I did, but I was disagreeing with the statement that 'prototype shops generally don't offer phenolic.'

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Ian

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But the factory is not going to do less than 5000 boards, so I can ship you 20 boards for 10,000 yuens.

You can still buy those old phenolic terminal strips with the solder lugs... they used to make radios and TVs with those things (no PCBs, just leaded parts and tube sockets soldered to lug strips).

For sauerkraut-wiring? I have lots of those but the ones John Larkin has are much fancier.

Some of my Russky lab bench supplies contain bakelite circuit boards. Amazing. I guess they had forgotten to put enough FR-4 or phenolic into the five-year plan back then.

Sorry, I must have missed something. We are talking prototype shops here not factories.

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Ian

You mean like this:

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Ian

Your version of spaghetti-wiring? LOL. I'll have to use that term.

B..B..B..But.. Bakelite *is* phenolic.

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Prototype shops are often reps for factories. We use FR-4 to prototype FR-2 productions. Someone already told you that, the processes are different.

Ha. I was thinking of this kind.. and remember the "binding post strips" for connecting 300 ohm twinlead or external speakers.

Gotta judge whether or not the market justifies the work required. The other company thinks it does, but then they don't have to do it. ;-) FWIG, we've already done a demo and they liked it, but...

;-) You'll be working for Obama (Government Medical) soon.

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Yeah, but this is different. It's almost a thick slab and does not have the layered paper-like texture of FR-2, more like that of a 1940's light switch plate. Very dark, too.

If your company will end up with a big equity stake and exposure it's almost mandatory to talk this over with the end customers, with big ones. They are usually brutally honest, at least with me. When they think something sucks they say it point blank.

Scary. However, private plans don't work either. Just got next years rates. Roughly 10% higher, services watered down, copays for a lot of big-ticket stuff doubled. So it looks more like a camouflaged 15-20% increase. Where exactly do these super-inflationary increases come from? Fact is, lots of people will get priced out of the market and a mandate will do nothing about it unless prices come down.

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Oh yes, I have some of those too.

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Ian

Yes, that is the real fear - that this 'reform' will mean we all MUST get insurance, which will increase in cost 25%. Refuse to pay, and you get jail time...

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AIUI, the only risk would be the modifications to an existing design. We would only be the manufacturer. The other company would be responsible for product definition and marketing.

The government has set them up to fail. Fixing the insurance mess would be simple, if that were the goal.

Sure, the house of cards is designed to fail. The result will *not* be better. It will be a *lot* worse. This government cant even get a trivial "cash for clunkers" give away right. How is it going to deal with a hospital bill?

No, you'll just be fined a quarter of your income and still have no insurance. Refuse to pay the fine and you will be jailed (tax evasion). It's in there.