The 24-year-old head armorer of Alec Baldwin's movie 'Rust' told a podcast she 'almost didn't take' her last job because she wasn't sure if she was 'ready'

Oct 23, 2021 Last reply: 2 years ago 104 Replies

If they told us this at the start it would have saved a bunch of time. This thing woman is f_cking ditz head. In her interview she stated she was scared of loading blanks! So glad they had gender equality though! This is what happens when people are selected for jobs for reason totally unrelated to the job itself. This should give people a clue of where the U.S. is headed with all the female appointees and employees.



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Should point out that the lethal accident WAS THE THIRD ACCIDENTAL LIVE FIRE DISCHARGE ON THAT SORRY ASS SET! The first time should have been the last time. Goes to show how stupid those people are.

Just to be fair to the woman, 24 yro man might not do any better. By the way, anyone know how the blanks are identified? Different color?

The live rounds have a bullet pressed into the cartridge, and it takes up most of the length. It's unmistakable. The blank has the end crimped and is much shorter and lighter. Anyone who can't tell the difference is retarded. A male armorer takes his job much more seriously, double checks his work, and never makes a mistake like this.

Main thing is why are any live rounds even being allowed on movie sets ?

I think in this movie they were using any thing they could to make it cheap and save money.

They might have to shoot at something real. But pointing a gun and pulling the trigger at the camera woman is just unacceptable. Was it a joke he was making?

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I can't see any reason to have real* live ammo on a film set, but if showing ammo closeup, like loading a gun, you need dummy rounds that look real but have no propellant or primers

*I read somewhere that industry practice use the term "live" for anything that'll go bang, including blanks

Just what would they shoot at something real that special effects could not do ?

News articles are saying they used the term "cold" to mean the gun was loaded with blanks.

Stupidity is not unique to females. Nor is fear.

Gun kick looks more realistic with a real gun. But some studios are doing the gun shots with totally fake guns and computer effects. It worked for light sabers.

But gun shots are a fundamental part of the movie industry.

A bullet causes what's called a cavitation as it passes through the target. Cavitation is a high pressure shockwave traveling radially outward from the axis of the trajectory. A big 45 caliber bullet can cause a cavitation of as much as 4 inches, it ends up stretching and rupturing everything it comes in contact with. The cavitation from a square chest shot should destroy the heart, in addition to a bunch of absolutely vital blood vessels, like the aorta.

Back in the old days, bullets were expensive and hard to come by. When they shot something they wanted it dead right then and there, and with one shot.

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Baldwin and the set assistant director demonstrated that.

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guns without some recoil it looks extremely fake, so they use blanks. But actually shooting at something with real bullets?

Ed Lee wrote: ===========

** All the time - the you see the damages happen.
** FFS are you totally stupid ??

Close up, head on shots of a man with gun about to fire are very common. He has to pull the trigger to make it look real. Then some smoke needs to appear. The sound effect is added later.

...... Phil

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** Bullshit question.

..... Phil

Blank rounds usually have the neck of the casing crimped to close the casing, (although some have the neck closed with a paper disc etc instead). It would be hard for a blind person to mistake them for live rounds.

In any case in this instance Baldwin claims that he was told that the gun was not loaded at all (or loaded with dummy rounds)

This whole thing went south when the assistant director grabbed a gun off of a cart placed there by this so-called armorer and rushed it to Baldwin w/o clearing it and said that it was "cold." Why did the armorer put a live round in the gun to begin with? This is shear incompetence on her part. Why didn't the assistant clear the weapon? Why didn't Baldwin clear the weapon? Where did the live round come from? This reminds me of airplane accidents that are the result of not one single fault, but a chain of faults. These idiots had multiple chances to catch their mistake and blew every one. This stinks of a totally absent safety culture that prioritizes speed over safety, which is what the original crew was complaining about.

Jasen Betts wrote: ================

** FFS how many times do you have to be told a "dummy" round looks like a live one. They are used in any situation where the round may become visible on camera.

Eg actor loading the gun OR with a revolver a close up shot that shows the cylinder from the front. As in this case.

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...... Phil

That round you're calling a dummy is inert, there is no propellant in the cartridge. You can't use those in place of blank which is supposed to make noise and smoke.

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