The radio inside my head...

I was walking down the street with some Chinese firend of mine, explaining him some subtlety of the slang I was using. We entered a sweets shop and got a piece of nice cake each. While enjoying it, my phone beeped twice, incoming text message. I took the phone out of my pocket to read it and .... then the real phone beeped twice because of a real SMS coming in and woke me up. How come I have a radio in my head capable of recognizing text messages coming in? I asked my wife right away whether by chance she was not say a cylon and had planted a radio inside me while I was asleep, she said no. Well, may be she is but she does not know it. Or may be I am and I do not know it. Anyway, I have never spoken in person to a Chinese guy in my life as far as I can remember. And I have not been into such a sweets shop for may be decades (now this may account for that part of the dream). And I am not making this up... (the most unbelievable part, to me too, I suppose). Apparently something inside me has figured out how to distinguish the radio signals on which an SMS arrives. Not sheer strength - the phone was about 5 metres away from me - although the signal is strong, it manages to mess up the TV set power supply from half a meter when active (the whole set begins to thump like it is about to fall apart).

So is it just me, the cylons or some other race I am not aware of? I guess I should now try to learn how to listen to the BBC worldservice without having a radio at hand...

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On a sunny day (Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:04:47 -0800 (PST)) it happened Didi wrote in :

Dimiter, the human brain is sensitive to EM fields. Just before a GSM receives the text message it does handshaking with the base station and transmits at about 4 Watt pulse coded.

I found myself sensitive to EM when I switched on / off a big electric drill close to my head, and saw flashes of light.

So it it very possible your brain recognises these GSM handshake.

As to Chinese sweets, what ever happens in your dreams can be induced by many things, cannot help you there.

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Jan Panteltje

Couldn't possibly be the motor's brushes??

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On a sunny day (Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:23:31 -0800 (PST)) it happened snipped-for-privacy@netzero.com wrote in :

Not in this case, but sure the EM from the brushes could be part of the source. You probably know how some birds use the weak magnetic field of the earth to find direction, sufficient indication that some cells can pick up even very weak magnetic signal.

Field strength next to a big 1kW electro motor is many times bigger.

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Some people just get a headache from having a cellphone next to their heads for long periods of time. That in itself already show you can 'feel' it is transmitting,

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Oh the sweets were quite trivial, a nice cake you could buy in Germany or (with a lot more luck) here in Bulgaria, perhaps best in Austria, Vienna. I would not know what Chinese sweets look like, never saw any...

Well 4 watts 5-6 metres away are not that much - although most of the time when I must have been in "learn" mode receiving messages, the phone would have been inside my pocket. I am still amazed by what happened - the thing inside my head (or wherever it is located, whatever it may be) knew this was an SMS...

Not so many years ago, I used to wake up perhaps half a minute prior to Jerry (

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) would scratch the door demanding to be let in. I used to joke he used telepathy to wake me up, it has happened countless times. Now since I apparently have a receiver if I only could establish whether he did have a transmitter... Will never know, I guess, too many confounding factors :-). He may have been making some noise crossing the yard in order to wake me up (he was way smarter than enough to think of that) etc. Or may be he was a cylon, I am an unconscious cylon as well and he used some channel.... :-) :-). Or may be I am a conscious cylon but nobody would expect me to admit into it so I won't do so anyway...

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Didi

I think this is quite common...

I had had dreams like this where some intricate story, taking hours of subjective time, seems to be leading up to the noise of the event that woke me. Somehow the brain manufactures (or re-interprets?) the experience in a few seconds.

Been reading Philip K Dick?

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John Devereux

No, although most of my sci-fi consumption has been on books (grew up and lived on books rather than TV generally). Recently I watched "Battlestar Galactica" (or sort of title TV series) and the name "cylon" seems to have stuck :-).

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Didi

He often wrote stories with a character wondering if he (or someone else) was a robot/android. "Blade Runner" was a famous film adaptation of one of his books "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". (Ha! back on topic!)

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I have missed him, may be I'll catch up. Have not had a nice reading for a long time. I guess one of the age related effects is the fact that at some point one has read most if not all of the really nice stuff written over centuries and picking something new and nice is both hard and unlikely, being shortlived as we are :-). Or may be this is why we are shortlived, what's the point to sustain life in a system with a full HDD... :-). Hopefully mine is not that full yet, that is :-), but all that work, coding etc. takes most of its interface bandwidth, I guess. I know I could use some rest, I don't know if I'll ever make it to be able to afford it any more....

Dimiter

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Didi

Ummm...more like 2 watts EIRP for GSM phones operating in the

1850-1990 MHz range.

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They found a use for the vacuum after all? ;-)

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Michael A. Terrell

Seems so. Many years ago a friend of mine, neighbour from the floor below ours, asked my mother while we were all having coffee "how come we (me and him) have such huge heads and not a droplet of brains inside". My mother was happy to have what she thought was obvious confirmed, of course. But why a radio?.... :-)

Dimiter

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Didi

To entertain you while contemplate having an empty head, of course! ;-)

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Michael A. Terrell

The brain does all kinds of tricks with temporal re-alignment. Optic processing takes a substantial fraction of a second, but other sensations reach the cortex much quicker. This would lead to a temporal incongruity if not for the fact that the brain compensates, re-perceiving events back into their expected earlier location in the timeline. So your cognitive perception of an event sequence isn't necessarily accurate.

Suffice it to say that complex dream scenarios with a full history can sometimes be manufactured after audio has begun but has not yet reached a cognitive level.

It's possible that your dream actually occurred after the beeps began, and was temporally relocated to explain them... even though the dream may have seemed to stretch out over some time...

Clifford Heath.

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Well I know but it is not the first dream I have, I am 52. It definitely did not seem that, obviously I have had many dreams induced by some sound which wakes me up. The beeping had stopped in the dream, I think I was fumbling with the phone to open the message, and then came the actual wake-up ring. And the timing was right, just the 1-2 seconds the radio activity preceeds the phone beep. Of course it is possible that my brain has tricked me to believe I have a radio, but if it has, this will have been a lifetime precedent for me of this kind - just as observing a radio in my head would be... :-)...

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Michael A. Terrell

This is interesting, and I think it has a lot to do with how memory and consciousness are constructed. Modern research shows that you construct memory retrospectively, and continue to revise it (sometimes long) after the initial event. So my bet is the original sequence of events went:

You dreamed about cake The phone rang You started to wake up You finished waking up

You were actually in a dual state just after (and quite possibly for some time before) the phone rang, but you edited the sequence to the version you remember, completely subconsciously and probably from the mind's need to create a complete narrative. The editing is automatic, and there's no way you could recall the original version; that's been overwritten. This also explains things like false memory syndrome, and conflicting accounts given by eyewitnesses. And I'm not calling you a liar- this is a fact of the way human memory works, everybody's brain does it, and is probably related to a built- in need to make sense of the world.

Paul Burke

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Paul Burke

Get a tin hat and wear it...

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Robert Baer

SNIP My wife has this, very bizarre.. ( and I did read about something similar that happened in WW2....... When we go to bed, and lights are out, ( and all is quiet) she can hear what is being received on our cable receiver in the bedroom.The TV is off, the Volume on the cable box is at zero ( mute 'on' makes no difference). If I change channel, she can tell. Not clearly, but enough to make out a tune, or if it is a man or woman speaking, but not what is actually being said. The only way to stop it is to select a non transmitting channel.

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TT_Man

Thanks Michael, pretty nice indeed.

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