We still don't have all the details. I assume the gun was in a lock box with Reed having a key, but who else? Who took it out with or without Reed and Baldwin knowing. Yes, Baldwin will be somewhat responsible as the boss who set the rules. How much he know and overlook would determine his liabilities. I think 64 millions sound right.
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** HUh ?? Was her job to check. ** Absolute garbage. ** FFS there were NO "blank" rounds in the gun.Dummy rounds look real - that is the whole idea. Used when the camera can see the rounds from some angle.
..... Phil
Yeah I just came back here to correct that because I just realized she was refering to the Lee case.
Although the gun in this case was used with real bullets when the crew was playing with it after hours, and they stored real ammo near the blanks.
Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
Prop 'ordnance' are not weapons. Decidedly so. Hell they do not even qualify for the 'ordnance' moniker and any weapon would.
Let's see, it fires bullets and kills people. Yeah, that's a weapon. Duh!
LOL! DecayedBrainMatter just confirmed her total, f****ng ignorance AFTER the facts PROVE that:
And I "assume" that you don't know s*it. By all reports the gun not only WASN'T in a "lock box," but it was taken out by the crew for target practice. This whole operation smells worse than the LA sewage treatment center.
Such pathetic ignorance I have never seen before. It's NOT called a "wheel," but a cylinder. The places the rounds go are called "chambers."
Blanks in the cylinder will look very similar, if not identical, to live rounds - the only way to check them is to empty them out of the cylinder for a visual inspection.
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** FYI asshole - I have consistently used the * correct* terms. ** FFS imbecile - how many times do you need to be told that claim is 100% WRONG!!A " blank" has no metal projectile at all. Very, very visible !!!
...... Phil
If you are picking nits about the wheel, the old western revolvers do not have cylinders that swing out. They are fixed in place and to load/unload them there is a loading gate on the side that is used. No way to look down the barrel from the rear.
Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
NO! You stupid f*ck! A "weapon" is a purpose built device.
A PROP is a purpose built device.
One is not the other.
Having functional weapons and live rounds on the set of a film making session is a trademark of Ukraine film making practice. She may have wanted the "realism" and got more than she thought she would get.
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** Utter total GARBAGE !!!The term "prop" is shorthand for " property " . It refers to any non fixed item on a set. Nearly all of them are normal manufactured items.
** As if you have any f****ng idea. ** Criminally insane, made up drivel...... Phil
Flyguy snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
A simple Google search of "wheel gun" reveals 128,000.000 hits, the first page of which blow your stupid s*it mumblings right out of the water.
They have only been called that from the get go.
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** ???? That 128,000 or are the zeros after the decimal important?Anyhow, nearly all the hits are for a power tool with that name.
** Massive, stupid fallacy. Wheel gun is a rare slang term for a revolver.The name "cylinder" for the cartridge holder is ab initio. Wot a f****ng LIAR you are.
...... Phil
There is a type of firearm called a wheellock which is precursor to the flintlock. I don't think that was part of this accident.
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** What disgusting fake quote.The actual Times item is here:
" ** Criminally insane, made up drivel. " ==========================
..... Phil
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** Massive stupid LIE !!!** So it IS a rare slang term for a type of ** gun ** .
Not the f****ng cylinder part !!!!! ===========================
The name "cylinder" for the cartridge holder is ab initio. Wot a f****ng LIAR you are.
..... Phil
Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:4d067d6d-719d-46f8- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
No. NOT "rare slang" you retarded f*ck.
Common use among industries where handguns are used, such as law enforcement.
It was also used in a slightly derogative way by those LEOs whom were the early adopters of semi-automatic firearms once they were allowed, as they would rib the officers that had yet to change or were not going to.
Again, you stupid f*ck, you know absofuckinglutely NOTHING about it.
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** It f****ng well rare and slang - you nut case LIAR !!! ** So both rare and slang. ** Just *slang* - not even jargon.And NOT RELEVANT to the gun's cylinder. ================================ ================================
FOAD you Schizo prick.
Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:64513a95-ace8-40b4- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
Right there in the very first line...
It refers directly to "the gun's cylinder". You STUPID PUTZ!
You ain't real bright, PhilTard.
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