Solar cheaper than nuclear

Aug 07, 2010 495 Replies

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I was walking down the street with my mom in Texas some years ago, stopped at a little town as we drove cross-country. The wind was fierce, but the people were friendly, even taking the time to stop as they drove by, rolling down their windows and greeting us. We couldn't hear them over the wind, but we appreciated the thought.

One pickup truck was especially friendly--we waved back, but he insisted, driving closer.

"BASEBALL HAIL."

A storm was coming with baseball-sized hail--more than big enough to kill. We booked.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

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Install a styrofoam box in your car and put the food in it for the trip home. Anyway, it is a bad idea to let the deep freeze products melt and then deep freeze these items, since the melting starts the bacterial growth.

Making ice on the day and storing it for the night is an alternative for using a battery to store the PV solar energy during the night and using the electricity to run the compressor at night. The question is which is more economical.

The refrigerator in a travel trailer was just used to illustrate what an absorbtion refrigerator is, since previously, many persons haven't understood what an absorbtion chiller is.

Of course, in a fixed location, you can and should use any other heat source, it does not have to be propane or electricity, which should not bee hard to understand.

Use for what ? For taking a shower ?

If the ground water is just below the surface, why don't you dump the heat from the air conditioner into it during the day, instead of the hotter air ?

A cellar for storing food would be quite suitable at those latitudes.

Well, I guess that's solar power finished then. Pity nobody thought of such an obvious show stopper. Or maybe most installations will not be built where 3" hailstones are common.

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Typical units made after ~2003 or 2004 pull in the neighborhood of

400-800kWHr / year, or the equivalent of 45-90w continuous draw.

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Units made in the 70's or 80's or 90's draw a lot more, to where buying a newer one easily pays for itself in energy costs saved.

If you want to go envirowhacko you can convert a chest freezer into a fridge that uses about 100WHr a day:

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That's on my to-do list some day just for fun. Then I'm going to sell the carbon credits to Al Gore. He needs them. Badly.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

Weird, but the same thing happened to me in my thirties. Now in my late forties and I'm still afraid to get up on a ladder more than 8 steps or so...

As a kid I was fearless of heights as well.

I thought it was just me; I wonder what causes that?

Bullet-proof glass. Yeah, that's the ticket! Boy this is getting awful expensive!

Solar power never started.

3"? Common? One inch hail, once in fifty years is enough to really tank the numbers. BTW, that includes 80% of the Southern US.

This 'fridge is less than six-months old. It's listed in the above chart as

562kWh/yr. That's about $.15/day.

If that's what you do "for fun", you have far too much time on your hands. ;-)

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From a post by the guy who was maintaining it, that was the oldest version that would work.

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That's a 'Good Thing' for the 'Darwin Awards Committee', through.

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They reported on the news last night that the Marion County prison farm got a federal grant for solar hot water heaters and installed by the prisoners. They are ground mounted, which will make them easy for the prisoners to damage.

They are supposed to save >$300,000 a year on hot water. I think those prisoners are spending way too much time in the showers!

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Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

Maybe some sort of evolutionary thing?

Young people are expendable (cannon fodder) and don't break easily anyhow, so don't need to be afraid of heights. When I was young, older people with sailboats used to haul me up masts in bosun chairs to paint and fix the rigging and such. Well, I was easier to haul up then, too.

Middle age, you are too valuable to take risks, and more breakable. Use a kid for the dangerous stuff.

Older, not worth much any more? Willing to die for the grandkids?

So, maybe you'll outgrow it like I did.

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The facts of life. It takes time to load your cart with food. Then you stand in line for a while. Then the clerk is in no hurry to scan your items. Then you load your car, or in my case, a pickup truck. Then you drive home in the hot sun. Multiple trips to carry everything into the house. You can't load a refrigerator or freeze in three seconds, either. As far as 'pre cooled food' you pay triple for cold soda or water.

What would that be, other than electricity?

That is why the 'wet dreams of the greenies' are rarely worthwhile.

I don't know how deep the freeze went that time, but I had to replace the gas & water supply lines.

I drive a pickup truck. A styrofoam box would fill the passenger seat and block my mirrors.

Tell me something I don't know. Some things are only bought in the winter.

The line powered refigerator is the cheapest way for me.

That leaves a wood fire.

Anything but flushing the toilet.

If you can get a permit to blast the limestone Florida sits on. If it fractures, you create a sinkhole.

Or don't really understand the risks.

Might not be as uncommon as I first thought:

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Some other pretty good theories there as well.

Can't imagine that!

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