Rigol oscilloscope prices have sky-rocketed!

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Nothing applicable in that section to the situation with Rigol alleged to have occurred.

Nothing applicable in that section to the situation with Rigol alleged to have occurred.

Piss off wanker

.... Phil

I don't know what to tell you.

Yep, but nothing to do with Ebay.

geoff

Jeepers, Next time I have a bunch of things in stock I want to get rid of cos they've been around too long I have to charge what everybody else charges ?

geoff

"geoff"

or the Rigol example

or the ebay user agreement

- you sheep shagging kiwi FUCKWIT !!

.... Phil

Yeah when we had surplus stores here I got many big transformers that way. They all (electronics surplus stores) disappeared years ago unfortunately.

MrT.

It shouldn't be a problem until a local official seller that can't possibly sell them for the same price complains. There are countless companies like (presumably) Rigol that have diferent wholesale pricing in different countries, so an official dealer in say Australia can't even buy it for less than what someone in China sells it for at a profit. Or to hold on to their dealership they aren't allowed to sell it under a certain price. With the advent of ebay and online trading, the world is a global marketplace, so these sorts of traditional regional pricing models make it a big fat mess. You can bet your bottom dollar the ebay sellers in China are (or were) not dumping the scopes at a loss, they made a very tidy profit.

I have since heard that another Rigol seller also had their auctions banned for "dumping". So this appears to be the reason for removal of the hundreds of Rigol's that were for sale on Ebay. So it's likely that one (probably official Rigol) seller, that may not even sell on Ebay, spoiled all the fun by complaining.

Dave.

And that affects eBay how?

MrT.

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It will certainly make it very noisy

I don't know where "here" is for you, but in the SF Bay Area, so much manufacturing has left the area that the surplus stores are struggling to get surplus stuff. Throw ebay into the equation, and there is even less stuff available in stores. But isolation transformers are more of a lab item than a production item, so they may still be in your area locally, but probably stashed in some garage.

Topaz transformers show up from time to time at electronics flea markets. In the days when small company owned a Vax, the Topaz was your isolation transformer.

Have a nice day. Oh wait, somebody as screwed up as you never has nice days.

You really make the rest of the Aussies look bad.

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Dumping is selling beneath the cost of manufacturing, so only the manufacturer can dump. A vendor can buy out the merchandise from a store that goes out of business and sell those items for less than the manufacturing cost. In the states, the FTC would have to declare a dumping situation. [I haven't had to deal with the FTC in a long time, but it was an amazingly accessible organization considering you were dealing with the government.

Like I've said, I need to see the documents on this alleged dumping. I just don't see Ebay taking sides in any kind of dispute like this. Rather, I see Rigol deciding not to sell stock to certain vendors that they don't like. An individual company can set up any distribution channel is desires (well maybe excluding automobiles). A prime example is Apple, that reduces it's vendors to keep the price of their good high.

You can make an isolation transformer that will handle a kilowatt from two junked microwave oven transformers. Just remove the HV windings and the magnetic shunt, leaving the primary windings. Connect them together with two coils wound on each core with a few turns of No 12 insulated building wire. Calculate the number of turns to not exceed 20A at the intended maximum load.

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ly.

This sounds very bodgy to me.

Getting 2 identical transformers, and putting the 2 primary windings on one core would be a better idea This would involve taking them (the E and I parts) apart and putting them back together - not easy for the inexperienced.

Whether in practice it would work well is another matter.

There almost certainly aren't any, it's an internal ebay decision. The seller probably just got an email informing them their listings have been removed because of a breach of some rule, and that's it, end of story. Some monkey at Ebay has spoken.

Ebay are judge, jury and executioner, and they are famous for showing it. Indeed, they have to be shown to take complaints of legal matters seriously, and they err on the side of caution every time. If they get any complaint with the wiff of a legal basis, they'll just pull the listing(s). Their site, their rules, they don't muck around, and the "victim" (sellers in this case) usually doesn't get any recourse.

Maybe, but there are many other ways to obtain them, esp in China, so that doesn't explain the lack of no more cheap Rigol scopes on Ebay. The only facts are that Ebay have removed the cheap Rigol listings for what they are calling "dumping". You can still buy the unit at the old cheap prices from various other online dealers, drop-shippers, and Chinese sources, here is but one example:

Dave.

Yep, had a Topaz myself once, but I've never seen one going cheap in Australia! Not to say it can't happen, but you'd have to be very lucky, not something the OP can necessarily go and buy at a reasonable price just because he wants it. And not something you'd want to carry in your car either, to use with an inverter supply!

MrT.

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Freight for a Topaz down under would be significant. Topaz has made some units that are small, well small for a Topaz. Maybe 12x8x8 inches.