Rigol oscilloscope prices have sky-rocketed!

"David L. Jones"

** Bests Rigol prices seem to be from Aussie on-line dealers at the moment:

Example: A$495 inc delivery

Then there is this similar DSO for A$431 inc delivery:

So much scope, so little money.....

Might eBay have pulled the plug cos of complaints that Rigol scopes were sold in a way that avoided local taxes like GST ??

..... Phil

Hope not, because that could end up with large numbers of foreign listings being canned, and us being screwed.

The infamous "exclusive distribution rights" scam might also be involved with them being pulled (if the law here covers such items).

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My Tek DSO, which granted is a boat anchor, was a bit more than half the price of that Rigol. I think for a bench scope, I'd just get a used Tek. If the Rigol offered 12V operation, I'd consider it. I've been looking at PC "pod" scopes. I'm not convinced a Chinese HP clone (OK, ODM) is really going to be much better than a Chinese PC scope.

I was thinking of the Bitscope 100u, mostly because it is isolated from the PC (less hash) and they support Linux. I have a great distrust of Windows and USB due to driver issues.

On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:57:24 -0800 (PST)) it happened " snipped-for-privacy@sushi.com" wrote in :

That seems to be only 40 meg samples / second.

Well, you've been praising them to the skies on your wildly successful blog, so what do you expect? It's sort of like Oprah's Book Club. ;)

Happy New Year

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jeez, i just got one last week - lucky i pulled the trigger when i did i'd say!

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$362.90 here

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'Dumping' doesn't exist on eBay, and they don't remove listings just because someone lists for less than their competitors.

The only way to find out, is to ask the seller then. But price was not the issue. It could have been almost anything, but since when eBay canceles a listing, the entire listing is deleted, there is no way for anyoneto go back and review it to see why.

As to the slight jump in prices, that's likely just market effects.

Someone on my eevblog forum did ask a seller and the rely was:

"Hello, Please don't worry, the problem is, an another seller has complaint by ebay that i'm selling the rigol oscilloscopes at a dumping price" He then offered to complete the original low price transaction outside of ebay.

With an almost 40% jump in price and drastic reduction in the number of low cost sellers, all of it practically overnight, that ain't just market forces at work. Something has happened.

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I see $411.96.

Jon

Oh, never mind. I didn't look to the right side.

Jon

One of the primary reasons they are so attractive is the price. If they increase too much sales will plummet. There's always another cheap DSO Owen comes to mind.

Fortunately for us the entry level DSO market is flooded and very competitive.

They could just be seeing what the market will bear. That can backfire.

This assumes its even coming from head office or maybe there's a large conspiracy of distributors to artificially inflate the price ;).

A year ago some gas retailers in Ontario where caught price fixing so it may not be all that far fetched.

Yes, not a great scope, but I have real bench equipment. I have nothing 12V portable. The Rigol doesn't buy me anything that I can't get with a used Tek DSO. The 40MHz limit would be fine for my portable purposes.

You looked at the wrong model, that was to the right in small icon

the one I looked at was down the page a bit in full view.

I really don't think they would give me a different price.

I just did a check with Netscrap a IE, this is strange, Netscrap does not even show URL after a google search for "DS1052e", IE does show it as the first one in the list and the price is full view is still $362.90 "12%" off. That's whole sale price..

I really don't think they're feeling sorry for me and giving me a break!

Hi all, I think the problem may be that an aus distributor may be complaining to rigol that international sales are infringing on local sales. One US distributor refuses to sell to aus due to such an issue.

Greg

David: You said the seller wrote to somebody:

Has it occurred to you that this is exactly the kind of story that an ejected SCAMMER would tell to rope in a few more suckers to send them money outside of the aggressive protection of eBay/Paypal?

How would you know if the seller is a SCAMMER or not?

Could be, but not my problem, I'm just passing on what was said. Buyer-beware, as always. If you are worried then buy from DealExtreme or some other known non-ebay seller. Remember, this is not a one-off seller thing, dozens and dozens of (legitimate) ebay sellers of this scope have suddenly dissapeared. There is somethign else going on. I have not heard of a single case of anyone being scammed on a Rigol scope, and I can tell you I get a lot of feedback on this issue though my blog. Doesn't mean it's safe of course.

Err, not too hard. If the seller has a rep of selling the same gear previously (ebay and other forum history can show that), and most of the sellers have suddenly disappeared (presumably) due to ebay pulling their auctions for some competive(?) reason, then it's more probable than not the seller is not a scammer, they are just caught up in whatever is happening here.

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Ebay exists to collect fees. They don't care who is selling the item as long as they get their cut. I suspect Rigol stopped supplying these dealers. They have a right not to sell to any dealer they don't like.

On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:44:59 -0800 (PST)) it happened " snipped-for-privacy@sushi.com" wrote in :

A 12V to 240V converter that easily powers a scope plus some other stuff, with a plug that fits the cigatette lighter is only 35 Euro or less here.