Re: engineering graduate school question

Jun 27, 2007 57 Replies

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I followed a couple of the links, but I think I've seen enough. Wikipedia is broken.

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Thanks for these references; it sure leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I always have disliked wikis in general and feel that they are a very flawed medium. Reading the disingenuous remarks of some of those 'admins' reminded me of a Twilight Zone episode or some frightening social-hell science fiction.

Regards,

Michael

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You think that's bad? There are folk with commercial interests going through all the references to anything vaguely competitor-like, and removing them. Nobody stops this.

Wikipedia is a war zone.

Steve

Is your PC clock off a couple days?

Dude, your fame just keeps spreading. You can add this to your list of honor badges along with the comp.dsp blacklist.

Congrats. ;)

Eric Jacobsen Minister of Algorithms Abineau Communications

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you mean "infamy", no?

i *try* not to be nasty. i really do. but when there is a perfectly good *dictionary* definition for "Intelligent design", i see no reason to replace it with "attack on evolution" or simply as the teleological argument. the article is written and controlled by people who simply hate ID (i don't support ID myself, as promoted by the Discovery Institute) who are simply not willing to admit that their own s*it stinks. i had trouble putting a lid on the obvious "political correctness" imposed on the articles on Marriage and Homophobia by a clear LGBT influence group. talk about liberal fascism.

thank you.

r b-j

Don't ever change, Robert. The world has far too few people who have the balls to speak their peace without regard to political correctness or the prevailing socio-political wind.

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Hi r b-j,

Liberals, the hard-core ones at least, want a society:

"where tolerance is is strictly enforced."

Ha ha. I love that phrase. See Ya', [-Rick-]

In a country where a black man still gets killed by being dragged behind a car by chains and a gay man gets beaten to death because of "gay panic", I think such an idea may be still good for a while.

Regards.

Here's another ha-ha for you: "I'm a pacifist. My goal is to kill all advocates of violence."

Jerry

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Wrong. The PC concept of tolerance belongs in the shitpile. Justice, however, (e.g., for murder) is always appropriate.

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Your concept of justice seems to indicate vengeance or punishment which does no good to the victim. As far as I am concerned justice is served when the victim is made whole again which is quite difficult if one is dead. One way accomplish it is to teach people tolerance so no one gets killed because they're black or gay or ...

You realize that both those actions are already 100% illegal, no new laws needed... right?

Oh yes it does, when it's a deterrent to others who may contemplate the same action in the future.

That's life. What can be done about suicide bombers? For those who think it's worth the cost, there isn't much to be done.

You're deluded. No one is going to teach people tolerance IN THEIR HEART. It's all lip-service and socio-political bullshit.

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I'm not against punishment per se. Just that we should try to reduce the need as much as possible.

So you think people are born with intolerance in their heart ? If yes, I am sorry for you. If no, I think people can be taught to have tolerance, at least not to have intolerance. If one is raised to believe blacks are inferior and inherently bad and gays are going to deepest hole in the hell, it's true that it's difficult to change that after one is 15 and some people take action upon those teachings.

In 1776, in an address to the Virginia House of Delegates, Thomas Jefferson said "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." Those who claim that this is a Christian (or Buddhist, or Moslem, or Jewish) nation and should be governed accordingly ought to be booted out of it. If that's intolerant, so be it.

Jerry

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Fortunately, you're wrong in some cases. Too few, but some.

Jerry

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And I'm fine with that. That is, I'm fine with the fact that you have an opinion that doesn't necessarily agree with mine. I don't see that as "intolerant," just honest.

And when we're honest with one another, we can communicate on a more meaningful level.

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No, just prosecute crimes as crimes. Even if you only kill a neocon, it's still murder.

Thanks, Rich

Just arm everybody to the teeth and see to it that they get proper firearms training, and there will be no crime or threat of terrorism or excessive taxation or any of the other ills that government inflicts on us.

There might be a few troublemakers at first, but they'd ba Darwinized in short order. :-)

Thanks, Rich

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