OT: Drawings of the 1942 German V2 Rocket

Wiki specs their range as 200 miles.

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Could have been intercontinental, all they had to do was conquer Russia all the way to the Bering Strait.

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Then they could have killed a few polar bears.

There was a plan to launch V2s from submarines off the US east coast. I can't imagine how they would make tons of lox in a submarine.

The V2 is the only known weapon system that killed more of its makers than its target. It helped end the war by draining huge amounts of German resources for little damage inflicted on the enemy.

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to hit North America if they wanted, according to Aberdeen.

The wiki article on ICBMs: "The development of the world's first practical design for an ICBM, A9/10, intended for use in bombing New York and other American cities, was underta ken in Nazi Germany by the team of Wernher von Braun under Projekt Amerika. The ICBM A9/A10 rocket initially was intended to be guided by radio, but w as changed to be a piloted craft after the failure of Operation Elster. The second stage of the A9/A10 rocket was tested a few times in January and Fe bruary 1945. The progenitor of the A9/A10 was the German V-2 rocket, also d esigned by von Braun and widely used at the end of World War II to bomb Bri tish and Belgian cities. All of these rockets used liquid propellants. Foll owing the war, von Braun and other leading German scientists were relocated to the United States to work directly for the U.S. Army through Operation Paperclip, developing the IRBMs, ICBMs, and launchers."

This A9/A10 was just some simple extension of the V2. Why would they use a weapon with 5500 km range against a target 300 km distant.

As for the alternative forms of air power:

"The United States Army Air Forces incurred 12% of the Army's 936,000 battl e casualties in World War II. 88,119 airmen died in service. 52,173 were ba ttle casualty deaths: 45,520 killed in action, 1,140 died of wounds, 3,603 were missing in action and declared dead, and 1,910 were nonhostile battle deaths. Of the United States military and naval services, only the Army Gro und Forces suffered more battle deaths. 35,946 non-battle deaths included 2

5,844 in aircraft accidents, more than half of which occurred within the Co ntinental United States.[76] 63,209 members of the USAAF were other battle casualties. 18,364 were wounded in action and required medical evacuation, and 41,057 became prisoners-of-war.[76][77] Its casualties were 5.1% of its strength, compared to 10% for the rest of the Army.[78][n 38]

Total aircraft losses by the AAF from December 1941 to August 1945 were 65,

164, with 43,581 lost overseas and 21,583 within the Continental United Sta tes.[79] Combat losses of aircraft totaled 22,948 world wide, with 18,418 l ost in theaters fighting Germany and 4,530 lost in combat in the Pacific.[8 0] The AAF credited its own forces with destroying a total of 40,259 aircra ft of opposing nations by all means, 29,916 against Germany and its allies and 10,343 in the Pacific.[81]

The cost of the war to the AAF was approximately $50 billion,[n 39] or abou t 30% of the cost to the War Department,[78] with cash expenditures from di rect appropriations between July 1942 and August 1945 amounting to $35,185,

548,000."

Clueless. There was a lot of US military in that area of Alaska during W.W.II.

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There were a lot of Japanese in Alaska, too.

The V2 was a very inaccurate weapon. Alaska is BIG. It could hit somewhere in or around London but wouldn't be very good against a military base. It was really a terror weapon, not very effective militarily.

The Brits deflected most of the V2s from London by leaking reports to the Germans that their missiles were overshooting by 20 miles. The Germans obligingly retargeted, hitting less populated areas. That shows how inaccurate the Germans believed their own missiles to be.

The V2 was not a very effective weapon. It was insanely expensive, inaccurate, and had a small explosive payload. It detonated on contact, at mach 4 or something, so made a nice underground explosion and a moderate crater.

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The V1 was actually a better weapon, but the psycological effect of the V2s sonic boom and silent approach until detonation and no way to shoot it down had great effect on the public. AFAIK the british (and dutch) feared the V2 more than the V1.

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Klaus

You're not seriously suggesting that drawing that way was advantageous I hope. We can draw a whole ship inside and out now and show it in virtual reality - much better and faster.

I think what JL is getting at is that there is drawing, & then there is design drawing.

John Larkin schrieb:

Hello,

they only worked out some plans. It should look like this:

It was planned as a two stage rocket.

Bye

Klaus Kragelund schrieb:

Hello,

the english spitfire pilots found a way to destroy a flying V1 without any bullets. They only tipped with the end of one wing to the wing of the V2. The V2 crashed to the ground, the automatic steering was not able to react, there was no roll control.

Bye

Work began as early as 1940 on this and it was deemed impossible to guide t o the target unless it was piloted (To bad for the guy that would have to t est that). So it would not have hit cows, but would have inflicted a lot of dammage (depending on how hard it is to hit a city when a human is guiding it)

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Klaus

You mean the V1, right? (the V2 was supersonic)

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When was the last time you saw surface finish marks on a drawing or surface finishing details for say hard anodizing? Hell, any anodizing. It is all chem film these days.

A lot of things became assumed in the CAD realm, and industry evolved too.

I hand drew standard dimensioning, but I like the CAD style of single point of reference dimensioning, and the CAM machines and computers like it too.

They give more for less everywhere these days.

You still miss the point, and will never understand it, even if it's explained to you.

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Would that have been a suicide mission?

The missile would have needed a life-support system and terminal guidance and serious heat shields and such. I doubt that an untrained pilot (they only get one shot in a lifetime) could aim a thing like this very well.

It would have been an even bigger loser than the V2. Without nuclear warheads and precision guidance, it would just make small craters at enormous expense.

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rate,

Really? You might get a clue that is was initially deployed while still in the developmental stage. Germany was out of time and resources. For such a worthless weapon, the U.S. put quite a lot of money and work into using it to advance the state of the art of missile technology.

Pencil drawing is advantageous for me, designing schematics and mechanical stuff. I hand it off to people who do the electronic and machanical CAD entry and go on to lay out PC boards or machine stuff. I find CAD entry to be clumsy, and it slows me down.

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