Hi
Just stumbled accross the drawings of the WWII german V2 rocket drawings designed by Wernher von Braun. Quite a nice job for 1942 and the basis for the US rocket program that followed
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Cheers
Klaus
Hi
Just stumbled accross the drawings of the WWII german V2 rocket drawings designed by Wernher von Braun. Quite a nice job for 1942 and the basis for the US rocket program that followed
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Cheers
Klaus
Old draftsmanship was sometimes wonderful. It took a lot of skill and experience to do that with, often, ink on vellum or starched linen.
I actually took two semisters of engineering drawing, which nobody much liked but was really valuable. Lots of kids nowadays know how to drive Autocad but not how to draw. I still design with pencil on vellum.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
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That's a bit late, Klaus. Seventy years ago and you could have made a lot of money.
Cheers
-- Syd
Now don't go off and build one of those in the garage, ya hear! :-)
-- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
The remarkable thing about those is how big they are (there are parts in the Science Museum in London), how many the Germans made in so short a time and how much it cost.
[A bit thin on actual numbers there, but you get the picture.]Cheers
-- Syd
This link says they were 45ft long and cost 100,000 Reichsmark initially and they pushed that down to 50,000 Reichsmark later.
Not sure if the 4.2 exchange rate still held at that time but it would mean in the end one such rocket cost $12k. That's not really expensive. But AFAIK they used slave labor for some of the production jobs. Anyhow, I am glad this chapter of history is over.
-- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Not likely, the U.S. government awarded several million $$$ to GE to reverse engineer the simpler V1 and they couldn't get to square one with it.
That's why the government then proceeded to pry lots of scientists out of post-war Germany. The book "Operation Paperclip" is a very interesting read.
-- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Same here. I had three semesters of "mechanical" drawing in Junior High School, then took a summer session at the High School (1955, the summer just prior to my entering High School). I submitted a number of drawings into the Southern West Virginia Student Craftsman Fair (WVUIT, see below), and took First Place in ALL categories ;-)
(I still have those drawings still stashed around here somewhere. I doubt that I can draw that good anymore, though I still draw preliminary sketches of circuits before entering them into CAD.) ...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
these guys are trying:
-Lasse
indeed but it also took whole lot of people to clean up drawings doing them in ink on that semi transparent paper so it could be copied
I did too, early 90's was probably one of the last years it was required, real draft tables with rulers on rails etc.
For quick sketch paper is fastest, but CAD where you can just type in accurate numbers, do measurements, move things around is real nice
-Lasse
I had a full-size drafting table until around 1994.
And an E-size hp plotter ;-)
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
I have heard of them. Have they gotten something into space by now?
-- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Considering how much more it cost to build a V2 than a bomber, and how much smaller the eventual payload, the V2 program was probably a net win for England.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
-- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
not quite :)
About a month ago the had a successful launch of their first active guided rocket, it reached 8250m and 1240km/h I think that was with their hybrid LOX/polyuretane engine
And they have run static test with a LOX/alcohol engine
-Lasse
For schematics, I find that library issues really slow me down, make me break my chain of thoughts when I need to draw a part that's not already created. And a tiny screen doesn't have the resolution (or the scribble-calcs-and-notes space) of a nice sheet of D sized vellum. The other virtue of D-sized vellum sheets is that they are hard to lose.
Hand-drafted schematics and hand-taped PC boards were incredibly labor intensive. "Draftsman" and "secretary" are pretty much gone. We still have PCB layout people.
I have a guy who does Autocad and Solidworks really well, so I give him a rough sketch and let him do the details. SolidWorks does gorgeous stuff, but there's a big learning curve (and cost per seat!)
The other game changer has been the whiteboard and the digital camera.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
I think the Germans were working on an ICBM to hit the US. Might have killed a few cows at best.
The Japanese launched incendiary balloons and started a minor forest fire somewhere in the Northwest.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
Just create generic symbols that require only entering the name of a subcircuit model...
Or, on a rainy evening, create a whole bank of generic symbols that only need a model name entered...
PSpice has the advantage that ctrl-G (get part) displays a list of parts AND a graphic view, so you know what you're getting.
And drawing parts in PSpice is downright trivial.
Yup. Somewhere, in my travels, I saw a whiteboard that could take its own photo. ...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
keeps amazing me how so many different airplanes, tanks, weapons, etc. were designed and build in huge number during those ~5years
today designing and building even a single simple airplane would probably take longer
-Lasse
that is fine for generic parts a like transistors, opamps ... not so much when you need a special ic etc.
we've had one that you just pushed a button and it scanned the board and printed on A4
-Lasse
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