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Truly truly, a 'no use to discuss or argue' scenario you portray here. You say "Every country is, and should be, self-serving. They owe it to their citizens". Yet, when many do *exactly* that, and it is not seen to be in the *perceived* "best interests" of the United States, your government will send in the bombers and troops. With that kind of perspective on the rest of the world, I'm sorry, but my belief is, you deserve exactly what you get. It has something to do with reaping and sowing I think.

There was a book written back in the 50s by WIlliam J. Lederer and Eugene Burdick called 'The Ugly American'. It should be required reading in all American schools (it is an American book not some communist Marxist propaganda). If it were required reading, there may arise in the US a generation of young people who are open minded and outward looking. If you read the book, you'll discover that nothing has changed in your nation in just about 50 years. It is still the same arrogant, incompetent, and corrupt entity it was then. In many countries your foreign policy is still viewed as that of "The Ugly American" and the term is used a *lot*.

Today, more than ever before, America takes what it wants under the guise of giving democracy and freedom for others. You wave the flag, flash a picture of the Statue of Liberty on the screen and carry on as though everything is as it should be. Seemingly able to blot out all the misery that has been bestowed on some population that is least able to handle it. As I said elsewhere in this total waste of time and words. Bully. That defines the USA best, as seen through my eyes and the eyes of many many others and the numbers grow each and every day.

Left over from a project, value changed!

We do, at present, have well over a million parts in stock.

John

It was clear as could be.

I described one means people use to smear a group.

They are not only founded I explained the basis of the foundation.

Yes, it is a fact that funding came from some people living in the United States. That is not the same thing as "The USA" funded and it is a deception to claim it is.

When the question is posed with a misrepresentation it is false and it is a 'documented' fact that no fractional handful of persons are "The USA."

A good example in the first paragraph of sloppy mixing of disparate circumstances and lumping them as similar or equivalent when they're not.

The second paragraph is not quite so convoluted and correctly notes the view of "some Britons."

I called the entire collection, and your handling of it, propoganda, not just a selected piece of it.

I called the entire collection, and your handling of it, propoganda, not just a selected piece of it.

When trying to convince people of your perspective on things, please ensure you have the data. Also before you chide individuals with your stock responses, make sure it will stick.

The Trinity test was among the best monitored and measured events in history, up to 1945. If you want the full set of notes, here they are. Everything from tonnage, blast, radiation , compression and on and on. The United States of America, within reason, knew *exactly* what it was doing when it bombed two Japanese cities on the 6th and 9th of August 1945.

Here *are* the facts.

I that one isn't enough or is too technical, read this one.

I know exactly who they are. Reread all the stuff above after:"made fund raising by it".

So where are all the Iraqi companies being given the rebuilding contracts?

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And I suppose you think it was the US Navy that captured the first Enigma machine in WW2 too.

He didn't. Someone once went through the records, and raui;way time-keeping was marginally worse under the Facists than it had been before they came to power.

Nobody is arguing that Saddam was the best ruler that Iraq could have had. The question is whether a military invasion followed by a military occupation by a force wasn't big enough to maintain order was the best way to get rid of him. A huge bribe might have been just as effective at removing him and much cheaper in financial terms, not mention human lives.

Taking the time to get the UN on side would have geratly enlarged the pool of potential contributors to the occupation force which might have been made big enough to be effective, but Dubbya needed his "victory" before the next round of U.S. elections so the moral dwarf happily bins some hundred thousand odd Iraqi lives.

Actually, the reason was much more mundane. The engine/supercharger on the US bombers had a flames coming out the exhaust port and were highly visible at night.

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Yes, how 'arrogant' of me to disagree with you.

Another false claim as I have never said everyone was wrong and, in case you hadn't noticed, not everyone agrees with you.

It would be pretty darn silly of me to type things I know to be 'wrong', now wouldn't it? So of course I think I'm 'right' and, fortunately for me, I am.

I provide 'evidence' when evidence is called for and analysis when analysis is.

But tell me, just what 'evidence' do you need to figure out that a handful of Irish Americans are not "The USA?" A blooming census? If you do then go find one because I'm not going to waste my time with the obvious.

There are millions of Irish Americans.

I've never met an Irish Arab :-)

It was the Poles who got hold of the first military Enigma, before WWII started.

-- "Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it." (Stephen Leacock)

Look at your leader and take the time to have a little study period concerning how he defines friends and under his leadership, have a look at what "friends" are supposed to do in order to remain that way with him.

...The US ambassador to Canada comes up here and every couple of weeks proceeds to inform us as to what we can say concerning the US and what we cannot. How we should run our country and what to do with our resources. Really, he's quite an ignorant prick.

... After all the years of friendship and co-operation up to and including the Clinton years, it's Dubbya that said, when we refused to go into Iraq, as we have a right to do, "well, you're either with us or against us".

This salvo was fired at a country that took in every f***in' aircraft that the US would not permit to land on its own soil during and in the aftermath of 911. These aircraft were carrying your countrymen, not ours and they were as much a risk to us on our soil as they would have been to you on yours. But, stupid Canadians, we thought that was what support and friendship were about.

.. We don't want to be part of your space defense system, as a sovereign nation that's our prerogative. But no, your asshole of an ambassador informs us we'd better think twice if we want to remain on the *same* friendly terms with the US.

And on the bullshit goes......

During the Iraq fiasco Bush managed to alienate France (long time ally) Germany (long time ally) in many ways Canada ( a long time friend and ally) . Picked himself up a coupla third world countries along the way and by god, he called it a "coalition of the willing" when in reality, they were a coalition of the *scared shitless* and the receivers of a few US bucks on the side.

Those are some of the reasons Canadians have about had enough of the USA under George W. Bush. We'll be better able to relate when the fucker's term is up and he goes back counting tumbleweeds or whatever the hell it is he does in Texas.

No ya cretin, *our* economy is just fine. We have no deficit, haven't had one for years, unlike your country. Our unemployment is low single digit and our dollar is hovering around 86 cents US. Our standard of living is as high as yours or higher and we've got all the resources we need and then some and more importantly, we don't have to go steal it from others. And, not a word of thanks nor bowing nor scraping required to the US for any of it.

What the hell have you got that we could possibly want. Not the arrogance that's for sure you got enough for both countries.

Now, what is your childish response if the discussion/argument doesn't go your way? Oh yeah, you pull a Dubbya....

PLONK!

You are indeed one arrogant son-of-a-bitch. It is truly amazing how every piece of data you are presented with by virtually all of the respondents here is wrong, and *you* are always right, while you give absolutely no evidence to back your Non-claims? Not even one tiny piece. I say you are not worth the communication as you contribute absolutely nothing.

Wrong!

The Poles intercepted a machine destined for the German embassy in Warsaw before WWII. They spent a weekend examining and analyzing it, then let it continue on its way. When war came, the information was given to the French, who in turn passed it on to the British when France was invaded.

Along with the information went a number of leading Polish mathematicians, the most notable being Maryan Rejewski.

A number of "civilian" Enigmas were in the hands of various countries, including the UK well before the war. They had originally been on commercial sale. They were differently wired to the military ones, and had (IIRC)no Stecker board.

The people at Bletchley Park spent months trying to deduce the keyboard entry order wiring (colloquially known as the "qwertzu"), only to find that, when they finally made contact with Rejewski, the Poles had known it all along.

What *was* captured from a sinking U-Boat by the British Navy was the vital settings book for the newer, 4-rotor, naval machine, the introduction of which had stopped decryption of naval traffic dead in its tracks for months, at the height of the Atlantic war. The personnel concerned had just grabbed every important-looking document they could find. They probably never knew the importance of their contribution.

Rejewski returned to Poland after WWII, and died there in 1980.

E&OE

Fred.