OT: CPU heatsink "heat pipes"

Are you claiming that every individual in the U.S.A. has to contribute to some action before we can blame the U.S.A.? Or a majority?

The action of a small group of misguided individuals was tacitly supported by your elected government, who took a suspiciously long time to do anything about it, so you end up stuck with a national responsibility.

Tell me GEO what would you have ME do to change that? eh? why don't you fly over here and give us your grand ideas on how to fix this. You see its not something that was created by the generation to which you converse today. Its a snowball that started before I was born and dare I say David also. I would however like to see what life would be if the US stayed 'neutral in world changing events. There are people blaming David for bombing Japan, what's that about? You know, you think you are the only ones that have ALL the info and ALL the answers. On top of that, don't think ANY of us Americans know what's happening. MANY don't support the current regime, just not enough. You have some way of getting more people to listen, to educate the majority that is virtually killing themselves trying to give their kids the 'American dream'. What makes where your from.. 'paradise', so damned perfect? Or is this just Idealistic blabbering, and you live here?

"Conor":

Roger Hamlett wrote:

The argument of 'We are all immigrants' is the one usually advanced by bigots to deny the existance of racism. There can be no discrimination against immigrants or visible minorities since 'we are all immigrants'. The part about the natives being also immigrants helps others to deny the validity of any claims by the North-American natives.

Geo

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David Brown wrote:

"in August 2002, Gonzales cleared a Justice Department memo that stated bluntly that both international treaties such as the Geneva Convention and US law do 'not apply to the President's detention and interrogation of enemy combatants.' " 'It states that Americans acting under the President's authority can inflict 'cruel, inhuman or degrading' treatment to prisoners without violating laws and treaties against torture.'

Geo

I really do get tired of these silly all or nothing, all one or the other, "Oh, if not 'everyone' then I suppose you think 'no one'" kinds of arguments.

No, not 'everyone' but there should be a significant number that have even a clue it's taking place and to blame a whole country there has to be significant participation.

Poppycock. There is no 'tacit approval' simply because a government doesn't take draconian actions against citizens who have committed no known crime.

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A misrepresentation of the Gonzales memo (in fact, all of it is a misrepresentation). Geneva protections afforded Prisoners of War do not apply to illegal combatants, just as the Geneva Convention explicitly says, and they never have.

The Geneva Convention, and all treaties for that matter, also only apply to signatories but I'll forward on to the State Department any documents you can provide relating to Al Qaeda having signed them. Wish you would because we have a few violation complaints we'd like to file with their ambassador.

So your citizens who were suporting a terrorist group in another country were committing "no known crime'". Your international war on terrorism is aimed at people living outside the U.S.A. who - in your view - are committing "no known crime".

What does your shoe-leather taste like?

I had originally asked what one would call a government that was complicit in the same crimes that would disqualify some groups on being called 'freedom fighters', as you had just commented. Past history indicates that the American government has supported dictatorships and tyrannies, has been involved in the overthrow of democratically elected governments, and has been complicit in the torture and disappearance of thousands of people. At the end I added some links to explain what I meant - what you called 'propaganda'. What are you saying? Are you saying that you disagree with what those links say? Or that the facts are irrelevant?

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David you have been keeping secrets...I didn't know you drafted International Law and had your own citizens. So what people are saying here is . when 'they' speak their whole country listens and cow tows to their demands. Simply they are in control 'individually' of their government and have a say in all things related to the broad scope of running said government and responsible for all their 'citizens' outside of their country's borders. Must be utter chaos. and at the same time, pretty ridiculous. Besides I can't understand what the big tadoo is about, in a very short time(relatively speaking) there won't be any "super powers" any longer as that does not fit in the soon to be one 'world' one gov one bank plan.

Heat pipes are legitimate for moving heat energy quickly and efficiently in many applications. In CPU cooling they can theoretically be used to move more heat away from the CPU faster than might a passive solution such as a radiator. Whether or not systems that use heat pipes in practice achieve this is a n open question.

Correct. It's a device that transports heat in large amounts usually through transition working fluid between vapor and liquid states.

No, it is not. See above.

It is a way to move more heat out of a small space quickly.

Heat pipes have been around for a very long time, although their use in CPU cooling solutions is much more recent.

Not entirely. Heat pipes can and normally do involve a phase transition, whereas car radiators normally do not.

There is fluid within the heat pipe, which is hollow and permanently sealed.

Heat pipes don't depend on convection per se.

No, not the same.

Heat pipes use a phase change to assist in the transport of large amounts of heat. A working fluid is boiled in order to transport heat in one direction, then it is allowed to condense to "transfer cold" in the other direction. A properly designed heat pipe (and it must be custom-designed for the environment in which it will be used) can transport extraordinary amounts of heat energy even with low temperature differentials.

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What status do the "illegal combatants" have them? If they are not prisoners of war, are they criminals? If not prisoners of criminals, which US statutes govern their treat,ment?

They are still men, aren't they, at least in the sense of "...all men are created equal..."?

Not much to start with, but Ithink there was at least a Winchester (a couple of litres) on the bench which contributed to the eventual conflagration. It wasn't a lab in which I worked, but my memories are of fairly crowded bench space with quite a few bottles of different sorts of solvents doing a lot of the crowding. All the fire extinguishers along the corridor got emptied through the door, and didn't do any good at all - as we were being ushered out of our lab, and ordered out of the building we got to see the guys from the next door rooms striking heroic attitudes as they directed the fire-extinguisher hoses at the seat of the fire. They joined us outside very shortly thereafter, looking subdued and chagrined, which wasn't true of the fire, which did very well - within the room - until the fire-bridgade arrived.

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Some more misrepresentation for you:

'Aug. 1, 2002: A Justice Dept. memo narrowly defines "torture" under U.S. law and the Geneva Conventions as limited to abuses causing physical pain "equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death."

Geo

How much ether was involved?

robert

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And what do you think is a misrepresentation?