Is there a simple way to get nesgroups?

Jul 28, 2025 Last reply: 11 months ago 25 Replies

An elderly friend is struggling to get Thunderbird+ 'News goup eternal' to work. Google groups is not an option as the group she wants to subscribe to is not on google. Alt UK Legal Moderated. Thx.


El 28/07/2025 a las 13:26, TTman escribió:

She must register there first and configure the server in Thunderbird: Server name: news.eternal-september.org Port: 119

I see an uk.legal.moderated, but I'm not using ES.

It’s on ES. Looks pretty active—it’s still downloading, but there were

300ish posts in one week last January.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

There's no such group. It's uk.legal.moderated.

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it's part of the UK USENET hierarchy - not the Big 8 or the alt.* hierarchies

It's no longer possible to access USENET via googlegroups which is quite probably a Good Thing .

Brian

Sorry, the correct name is u.l.moderated.

What are you using ? That's the right newsgroup....

Sci.electronics.design on google groups worked fine until the spammers found it, and google didn't bother to work out a way to block them, but just stopped it accepting new posts.

Sci.electronics.design on google groups was easier to use and easier to read and some of the people who posted to it didn't like this. I'm not one of thydney

I'm not one of thydney either, whatever that is, but anyone who doesn't want to bother with a Usenet client might find this useful:

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I haven't used it myself.

On 29/07/2025 7:36 am, brian wrote: > In message <10680q7$3h9cj$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, Don Y snipped-for-privacy@foo.invalid writes >> On 7/28/2025 6:13 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-07-28 14:08, Don Y wrote: >>>> On 7/28/2025 4:26 AM, TTman wrote: >>>>> An elderly friend is struggling to get Thunderbird+ 'News goup eternal' to work. Google groups is not an option as the group she wants to subscribe to is not on google. Alt UK Legal Moderated. Thx. >>>>

Sci.electronics.design on google groups worked fine until the spammers found it, and google didn't bother to work out a way to block them, but just stopped it accepting new posts.

Sci.electronics.design on google groups was easier to use and easier to read and some of the people who posted to it didn't like this. I'm not one of them.

This is a re-post. My first attempt lost the last three characters of text and most of signature line, creating the non-word that Edward Rawde objected to. It may have been some odd kind of typo - it certainly wasn't intentional.

Carlos seems to be using Tweaknews. So do I, and they have uk.legal.moderated.

Tweaknews is not free but you can buy a block account for a nominal fee and it's more than enough for a light user. I bought a 10GB block account for 2.00 euros back in Feb 2018. Admittedly I haven't been very active on Usenet these past few years and I still have more than I paid for! - 10.46GB to be precise.

Tweaknews is fast and reliable in my experience. 5000-day retention. They have their own free newsreader; haven't tried it myself though.

One thing I've noticed is that the first post in a session sometimes fails to go through. A second attempt always succeeds even if it's made immediately after the first one.

No, I am using "individual.net".

"individual.net" is 10€/year.

Yes, but she hasn't got that far yet...

Ah, I see. When you didn't answer TTman's question immediately, I took the liberty of tracing the source of your post. But I made a mistake there. The first line says it's coming from Tweaknews, but I forgot that that's my own newsserver. I didn't see the X-Trace result down below saying it's individual.net. I'm rusty with Usenet.

ulm is on Eternal September and freely available. I'm using ES.

However the huge number of spelling mistakes in the OP's question and subject heading would be more than enough to prevent it from working.

uk.legal.moderated is quite distinct from alt.*.totalcrap

which of them is she trying to access?

u.l.moderated... but that's not the issue. the issue is being able to find a simple reader . I will have to prompt her, best I can, to get Thunderbird +ES working. It's years since I did it.

I use Thunderbird on desktop/laptops but for simplicity NewsTapLite on iPhone/ipad is hard to beat. One eternal September account serves both.

Seconded.

Recent Thunderbirds have some quadratic algo in the guts that makes them very slow on groups with many posts in the archive.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs (via NewsTap)

I use Eternal September . My client is Turnpike, Thuderbird works too.

News.newsfrontnet also carries it

Xref: news.netfront.net uk.legal.moderated

Brian

Thunderbird has been painfully slow slow for forever deleting large numbers of messages. Never timed it to see if it was quadratic or worse back then but there was actually a noticeable speedup about two or three months ago. I did time it recently and it seems to be quadratic but on my old pc deleting 30,000 message headers still takes about four minutes. That's much better than thirty, so yay, I guess, but why so slow in the first place?

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