Ft doubler

We had a rainy weekend here and I decided to spend some time simulating Battjes' Ft doubler and to compare it with a more ordinary differential cascode amplifier with similar gain and bias conditions.

I sort-of expected to find that the bandwidth of the Ft doubler would roughly be twice that of the simple differential stage, but I did not find that. In fact, the bandwidth is about the same. I conclude that I don't understand the point of the Ft doubler. What gives?

Included below the .asc file of the Ft doubler. To compare with a simple differential pair, just delete one pair and tweak the resistor between the emitters of the remaining pair to restore the gain. I get a

-3dB bandwidth of about 2.6GHz either way.

Jeroen Belleman

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Reply to
Jeroen Belleman
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I think the problem is the low current gain. It's less than unity (240 ohms || 1.2k in the emitter circuit vs. 50 ohm source). So naturally you're not seeing much improvement with the doubler.

HTH- Frank

(sorry for the delayed response, I was away...)

Reply to
Frank Miles

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I believe your problem is that the current gain of the first stage is less than unity. You won't see much benefit from the ft doubler at such a low gain.

HTH- Frank

Reply to
Frank Miles

Where did you find the model for the BFR92A? I have looked all over the web with no luck.

Thanks

Reply to
Steve Wilson

I have a file with Philips transistor models which I picked up many years ago, I don't remember wherefrom. You can pick it up at .

I have a lot of package parasitics sub-circuit models too, but no time to organize them right now. Maybe next week. The BFR92A has been declared obsolete recently, alas.

Jeroen Belleman

Reply to
Jeroen Belleman

Hi Jeroen,

Many thanks. That helped a lot. Now I can run your original file.

I found if you change the BFR92A to BFR92, and C1 and C2 to 1.3pf, the results are almost identical to the original BFR92A in your posting.

There are many replacements for the BFR92A. NXP suggests a BFU530AR:

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There's a bunch at Cross Reference Guide:

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So we may actually be better off with some of these replacements.

Just have to find the SPICE models.

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Steve Wilson

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