FR4 delay tempco

Feb 09, 2017 4 Replies

I measured a slab of copperclad FR4 as having a capacitance tempco around +900 PPM/degC. I wonder what would be the temperature coefficient of delay for a microstrip or stripline on FR4. Not only does the dielectric constant change, but a board will expand in x/y/z too.



I guess I could measure it, which could be a nuisance.



John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

To leading order, the effective epsilon of microstrip is (1+eps_FR4)/2. Delay is approximately proportional to the square root of that (i.e. the refractive index n), so one expects that

n ~ sqrt((1+eps))/2

You can obviously do that out at length, but for SWAG purposes, it's easier to do it numerically, with eps = 4 and d/dT(eps) = 0.0036/K.

sqrt((1+4.0036)/2)/sqrt((1+4)/2)-1 = 0.00036, i.e. 360 ppm/K.

The in-plane thermal expansion coefficient is less than this, so at this accuracy level it can probably be ignored.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Yeah, I guess the dimensional changes will be small compared to Er.

We're designing a test board for a picosecond instrument. If we match trace lengths to, say, 200 ps, 360 PPM of that is pretty small.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

I just measured one the other day. I got 75% of that value. Nice approximation.

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Thanks, it's good to pass the sanity check at least occasionally. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

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