Florescent light bulbs?

Dec 07, 2006 174 Replies

I bet Al invented the florescent lamp!

Instead of using toxic illuminators (our fine city has classified florescent lamps as hazardous material), Cree has some white LEDs that are close to the efficiency of florescent lamps. They should last longer and won't break when a juggling club smacks the assembly.

Mark

If you are talking about 1940's fluorescent; modern CF's have about 4 times the lumens per watt than incandescants. The kicker is they also have 4 times the life. If you have a lot of lamps to maintain that adds up fast.

JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.   --Schiller

Fluorescent bulbs create a considerable EMF disturbance radiation. I don't like them for that reason, because they pollute all radio bands from longwave to VHF.

Besides this, they do not live that long, at least not 13 times the lifespan of an incandescent bulb.

The purported longer life is simply a lie.

w.

I get mine for half that. My flurescent bulbs are going on over a year old which is well over ten thosand hours apiece. The bulb which produces a brightness equivalent to a 100 watt incandescent consumes 30 watts. So they last three times longer (at least) and burn less than one third the electricty. It sounds like a win.

If there is a Home Depot or a CVS Pharmacy near you look into it. Also the Ace Hardware chain has sales on flurescent lights. so you can save up to fifty percent on the standard retail price. I have.

An incandescent 100 watter will last 3000 hours. That is 300,000 watt hours or 3KwHr. If you have ten in the house that is 30kwHrs.

You can cut that down to 10kwHrs. The main saving is on lifetime.

The more light you use, the more you save on both the replacement cost and the operating cost.

Bob Kolker

Click your heels three times and make a wish.

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You need less caffeine for a start. Then a quick lesson in mathematics and reading comprehension.

The post said they save 80% compared to incandescent bulbs.

Possibly because he isn't a scientist. Are you ever wrong about a lot of your theories?

Or go to Ace Hardware, Home Depot or CVS Pharmacy. These places not only have the bulbs but they usually are on sale for half the catalog price if not cheaper. One time I got a 6 pack for six dollars and change.

Bob Kolker

In 1992 there was an announcement or two about something called the "E bulb" It was supposed to be an RF excited fluorescent lamp - ala Tesla style. The idea was to have the electronics in the base with a glass covered coil extending into the bulb envelope. No electrodes to wear no filaments to burn out.

Searching on "RF lightbulb" yielded a (very) few hits on it.

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The Federal Communications Commission has waived its rules to permit the General Electric Company to begin marketing an ''RF lightbulb.'' The Commission waived, at GE's request, FCC Rules Part 18 limits on the amount of RF energy that may be conducted into the electric power lines by RF lighting devices in the band 2.2 to 2.8 MHz.

The article goes on to mention another company trying to make an RF excited lamp in the 13 MHZ range.

Looks like RF radiation is one of the design problems to overcome - if it ever to replace cheap compact fluorescent lamps with more limited life spans - not that I expect a company to sell bulbs that last forever - that doesn't sound too profitable.

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What if you were to combine Solar power for electricity, water heating and radiators, with your normal mains electric and lower power flourescent bulbs. Think of the saving you could make then. 80% of your lighting bill gone, 40-60% of your hot water bill gone, and 20% of your room heating gone. And you have cut down on the emissions caused by electricity generation. Saved money, saved the planet and the warm fuzzy feeling might not just be because the radiator was up too high.

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99p (about $2USD) for the equivalent of a normal 60watt globe. They are being reduced to silly cheap compared to how expensive they used to be, because nobody likes the look of the cheap ones, and won't play the price for the better looking ones.
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Yep. Isn't warm fuzzy science so grand ?:-)

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It is possible to live "off the grid", i.e. without using electricity from the utility company. People do it. There are websites devoted to it. This isn't news.

- Randy

The biggest saving I got was when I moved. Electricity is about 40% cheaper at the new home 10 minuites away. I have fun trying to burn electricity.

greg

But who is to say that GW wouldn't happen anyway, even if man hadn't evolved from apes, even if technology hadn't happened and even if industrialisation hadn't occured.

We have Global cooling(Ice Ages) as part of the natural cycle, so why not Global Warming. Maybe we can't do s*it to stop it happening, maybe we are just inconveniencing our selves for nothing, and maybe we are just paying "green" taxes becauase we are told to and all it is doing is making government revenue. Maybe the human race is going to get wiped out at anytime soon anyway, no matter how many solar panels, wind turbines, BioFuels and organic lentils are installed, consumed or used as fertiliser.

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On Dec 7, 1:28 am, Bob Kolker wrote: ...

hours. That is 300,000 watt

I think you need to check your arithmetic.

3000 hours at 100W is 300,000 Watt Hours or 300KWHrs (Three Hundred). At the rates I pay that will cost about $60 for the electricity. A CF lamp over the same period would use about $15 worth.

In addition it is unlikely that an incandescent would last 3000 Hours - they are normally designed to last about 1000 Hours.

It is a tradeoff of life vs efficiency for an incandescent - you can make an incandescent last as long as you want by lowering the filament temperature, but the efficiency drops of dramatically. At the other end of the scale from domestic lighting, incandescents for photographic work give off a lot of light but only last a few hours.

kevin

Oh I know. Between wind turbines, small scale hydro electric running of brooks and streams, and solar for hot water and electric, in a rural setting it is easy to either use 12v DC with battery storage or even use battery storage, innefficient but working inverter technology and DC power.

One day I plan to do it.

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In the UK, we can buy from any electric company selling in the country. It all comes down the same wires, all that changes is, who bills you and how much they charge. And none of them are cheap, because a lot of electric is gas generated anyway.

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