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Classic weenie following the DemocRAT talking points, to the end.

I haven't bought a Detroit product since 1977. (And I used to do a lot of chip design work for all the American car companies.)

...Jim Thompson

This guy wants to make it a crime to doubt man-made global warming.

Climate Nazi.

John

Not surprising.

Some leftist weenie, here in AZ, sent a letter-to-the-editor of our local neighborhood rag, demanding they not print anything I have to say.

In _my_ letter I had even taunted them with a place to E-mail me...

JimsFanMail@... ;-)

Not a single response, and it's been a month now.

...Jim Thompson

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

It appears he isn't doing what you say he's doing. As the article points out, he is "accusing them of actively spreading doubt about global warming" when they were also "fully aware of the disinformation about climate change they are spreading." And I believe he wants to target CEOs (folks who are "in that kind of position") Horse of a different color.

You won't be jailed unless you get into that kind of position in control of the lives of others and then play an active role in intentionally misinforming the public about a serious public health issue.

I could be wrong, though. Perhaps he's got you in his sights. ;)

Jon

We don't need no stinkin' Amendments!

How about this:

Is killing a hundred million people also a crime against humanity?

Perhaps dogma *is* more important than childrens' lives.

John

Not worth the effort? About those we consider beyond saving, back home we would say "Bless his heart" and just move on.

I think the quote was,

"When you are in that kind of position, as the CEO of one the primary players who have been putting out misinformation even via organisations that affect what gets into school textbooks, then I think that's a crime," he said in an interview with the Guardian.

The use of 'crime' in the above is colloquial, I think. Nothing to go rabid over. ... yet. ;)

That part of the EU's environmental strategy was, from the outset, ill-conceived. Just as is corn production for ethanol here in the US. Doomed silliness, from the get-go. It's the political equivalent of re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Still applying unsound logic and false premises, I see, to form your conclusions.

Jon

Yep, you got it Jim. And the reasons are POLITICAL! Your CAR is your FREEDOM! That's what has socialist panties in a bunch. When you are riding light rail those in power get to control where and how you go and keep track of you while you are doing it! In you car you could leave right now telling nobody where you went (until you used your credit or debit card at a pump to fill up) In the socialist view that is an unpardonable "loophole".

So our Democrat Mayor in Columbus Ohio has got this great two hundred million dollar socialist idea! STREET CARS for the city! Nothing like a nice return to the 19th century to "modernize" a city, eh? Maybe while we are at it we can bring back separate black and white drinking fountains as well. (The mayor is black so that means the White fountains have to be the scroungy ones!).

I'll tell you how stupid this all is. The first time I came to town there WERE streetcars here! Dangerous, unsightly, and noisy. Those eventually changed to electric trolley buses which morphed into standard buses which in time had so low a ridership that they couldn't stay in business. One guess as to the socialist (read that Democrat in this case) solution? That's right get all the people NOT riding the buses to pay for the few who do because, well, those few are POOR and you are not!

Hey I rode the bus to work for some years. It was the biggest time waster around. Slow. Schedules inconvenient. nasty bus drivers. lack of service. and expensive even with taxpayer subsidies. (costs always expand to fit the money). Now it's just one HUGE money waster and the mayor wants to step even further back in time!

They are all gleeful over the idea of "light rail" between Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. DUH! In the 19th century such a system, called the "inter-urban" was in use. The automobile killed if off forever! (we hope). Would I ride "light rail" to Cleveland if say it cost $25 for the trip (slightly more than the cost of gas in a small car) Sure. No driving. Relax and enjoy the ride! But you know it would never be that cheap and now ask the HUGE question: What do I do when I get there? How do I get to where I want to go out in the suburbs of the city? Taxi at huge fee? More buses? More light rail? How much does it all cost? How long would it take me to make the REAL trip (which is to my destination, not to downtown Cleveland)? Can you see how utterly moronic this "light rail" thing is?

Then why are all socialists all in love with "light rail"? Because it "smashes" your freedom. They HATE freedom! They want government to do and "control" all! So long as the people still have a choice, they say the law still has "loopholes"!

Do you get it yet?

Yo, Jeff, Keith. Don't argue, post links to quality data.

It may be a little much to assume intent but you can be sure that they are happy about the higher gas prices and won't do things to push the price down. They are more powerful than many countries but no smarter governments. They can't predict the future. China and India are developing a thirst for oil so I don't expect the oil prices to go down very far.

The countries that piled a lot of the tax burden on imported oil caused their car companies to make cars with good fuel economy. I think that this is a lot of what caused Honda Toyota etc to make the small high milage cars. The companies responded to the market forces. They didn't have to be smart to now have the advantage.

A lot of Toyota and Honda cars are made in the US using american labor. These cars are well built and produced at reasonable costs proving that the reliability problems with the american brand cars is not the workers fault.

You designed the chips and you won't buy the product with it in it. Is this a little like the Microsoft engineers who said they would never fly on an airplane that was run by windows CE? :)

Even if it really is about making a new law it still wouldn't impact the scientists who disagree etc.

We need to drill a hole in your head to pump the BS out of it.

JAM

I designed a variety of ignition systems, turn signals and smog controls.

That has nothing to do with lousy suspension systems, interior finish quality, or poor reliability of engines and transmissions.

...Jim Thompson

I believe the flaw in this line of reasoning is that, if anything, the country is one heck of a lot closer to socialism now than it was, say, 50+ years ago when streetcars, busses, etc. were more common.

What killed off (many) busses and other forms of public transportation was simply the incredible rise in the standard of living brought about by technological advancemt and economies of scale in the post-World War economy of the U.S. The sad truth is that kids in the past few decades in the U.S. are one of the first generations whose standard of living will, on average, be below that of their parents, so it's not too surprising that you're seeing a return to a greater emphasis on public transportation.

Actually most people find that spending an hour on a bus or train is actually prefereable to spending, say, half-an-hour driving yourself somewhere: In the later, you can't read a newspaper or book, work on a laptop, etc. (One thing that would make a lot of sense these days would be to have WiFi available on trains and busses.)

I wouldn't suggest that greater mass transit -- or even what already exists in some cities -- always makes sense, but you have to look at public transporation as something that government does primarily to help out the mid- to lower-income people in the short term so as to minimize everyone's long term costs (taxes): Would you rather subsidize a guy's transporation to work, or pay for his unemployment benefits and then welfare because he simply can't

In Portland, Oregon the trains and busses are set up to let people take bicycles with them. Not a 100% solution, of course (nothing is), but so long as you don't have to use a highway, a bicycle and another 15 minutes gets you anywhere within 2-4 miles of the bus stops/train depots.

---Joel

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Agreed, reluctantly, because it's reduced to "tax and borrow and spend" in practice.

Better still: don't borrow & don't spend so much.

But if you're going to spend it, you should collect it, otherwise it's just a hidden tax, due later with interest.

Best regards, James Arthur