circuit design to pc board

There is a current thread going on this.

If you had bothered to READ the group,

You want to know if there's software to make neater breadboard circuits ?? :P Like a breadboard autoplacement and autorouter? AFAIK..that doesn't exist.

Huhhh... If SED is for advanced topics, this question is like asking God "How long would I have to s*it to fill up a swimming pool?"

D from BC British Columbia Canada.

Mashed, or as dumped ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

As dumped.. No toilet paper. Pool is covered to retain moisture. Compression from it's own weight might need to be considered. Microbes might cause some volume loss.. ..Methane?

D from BC British Columbia Canada.

The methane could be used for a BBQ so you can have a party. More sh** to fill the pool. Use some to fertilize gras and get some cows and a bull. Hmm, sounds like a self supporting system to me.

Organize the components so they are nicely aligned and the copper traces between them are as short as possible. Place connectors on the edge of the board. Designing PCBs is like solving a maze-puzzle. It takes a lot of practise.

I think the OP is using a breadboard and would like to know how to reduce a hairball of parts and connections.

I've done so much breadboard work, I don't know anymore how I do it .. It just turns out good enough.. Time put into super neat breadboard work isn't worthy. Might as well put the time into creating a pcb.

D from BC British Columbia Canada.

Have you tried spray paint to hide everything? ;-)

You should ask dimbulb. It's the most qualified for this question.

ilaboo replied via email:

You seem to think we need *more* idiots around here.

The problem is, that there has been PCB layout software that was very highly touted to do what you say (expensive tho), and "autorouter" was the monnniker / tradename used at one time...

I think you are right. My mistake. The picture of Bob Pease (did I spell his name correct?) with an LM-ancient on a breadboard comes to mind. Breadboards are always messy. I guess the best advise is to use special breadboard wires. These can be found on Ebay for reasonable prices.

I haven't used a breadboard myself for ages. I simulate most of the stuff and/or build a PCB straight away.

This might be worth a look... I agree that its probably a waste of money tho

I use Eagle

I'm still learning to master Eagle, but can mention that it has an auto-routing function which automatically routes the shortest distance of the circuit traces though most people I've spoken to recommend that I do it manually instead. I tend to go for a combination of manual and automatic routing as I'm no expert yet :-)

Hope this helps.