BIOS problem

Hard to tell what the f*ck you are spewing about if you do not quote anything, you retarded f*ck. Not that I give a fat flying f*ck what you think or believe.

And you claim to be knowledgeable?! Much less knowledgeable in Linux!

Ha! Total bullshit, you are. You don't know what grub is? Then you don't know a goddamned thing about Linux. AND IF you do not know what grub is, how the f*ck would you be able to declare that it works the same?

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Talking about safe mode, just recently I got a call from a friend that had to do a step back in XP and was suggested to do it from safe mode how ever, every time he boot in with F8,it took him to a boot manager and all he could do was select the boot drive and windows XP would start up.

So I suggested that he would hit F8 again just as soon as he selected the drive he wish to boot from. That apparently did work so, it's possible Grub, what ever that is, works in the same manner..

P.S. Although I did/do windows program quit abit over the years, I'v never got real expertised at recovering machines, because I never actually had a lot of problems. I know a few that have tools that i've never heard of just to attempt a system repair, before doing that black thing called "FORMAT". I do have basic tools for prepping HD's and moving data etc.. but I don't consider those to be expert IT tools.

Jamie

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Which parts of your BS do you think anybody believes?

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Nymnonuts is just out to charm everybody.

Yet you chime in on it as if you know how 'it' works.

Which, if yer too goddamned dumb to know what is going on in, you should probably stick with read-only keyboard behavior. That probably went over your head.

My remarks were a reference to what things you fail to see, and the fact that it is a high number.

As if a ditz like you could ever make a valid assessment of someone else.

Looked to me like grub, the Linux boot loader was being talked about. But that's right... you do not 'know' what 'that' is.

Why yes, you are... in fact.

Put you in your fucktard place. If I did it from there, just imagine what I would do to you with it free, and up in your face.

Yes, you, fucktard.

I do not go 'round talking about the behavior of something, and in the same sentence, declare "whatever that is" (you talking about grub)

You're an idiot. I'm not an ass. I'm the son of a sea cook!

You are still being vague, little braindead bitch.

Since you are the only punk f*ck bastard calling anything I say 'BS',

*YOU* need to specify the 'part' you wish to obtain feedback on.

Or is that 'part' of life way over your punk f*ck head too?

Yeah, I don't know what grub is, I am not a linux person. Did I say that? I only assume it had something related to it via the context of the post. But I guess you didn't see that, nothing new on your end.

We were talking about XP, is that linux?

What an ass, I bet you got your head up it right now..

Jamie

Do you think anybody believes anything you say? You're a BS'er!

Most of my experience is with opensuse. Anything in particular (i.e. specific) regarding Fedora?

On a sunny day (Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:09:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened " snipped-for-privacy@sushi.com" wrote in :

I think, IIRC I only had one attempt at installing that. But by the time I tried it I was already into other distros. I do not like incompability, although RatHead probably calls it customer binding, in the sense that once you use their stuff you are stuck with them, nothing else will run without a recompile and or rewrite. IIRC Xilinx webwreck was supposed to use Fedora too? Got that working on grml though. I have tried, in the past, with my appreciation on a scale of 0 to 10, with 10 as maximum: SLS Linux: 9 Slackware: 9 RatHead some early release, before they f*cked up libc: 7 Suse 7.2: 9 Suse 9.3 professional: 7 The influence of Novel started showing. Some later RatHead, did not know my printer, did not see my mouse, did not give support: ZERO or -1 Suse 10.0 evaluation disk ?: maybe 6 Open suse something: scored a 0 (ZERO), it erased all my binaries, that bug was fixed later, but I left Suse. By that time I had concluded that Slackware was the all out winner. But I needed something simple and reliable fast, and found grml

(Debian based), (I had tried Debian too of course, could not really get used to apt-get and stuff). I am still running that first grml, but upgraded many of its programs and libs, and also the kernel. And I have a later version running too. I also had a go at that South African thing, even at Redflag ? Linux (Chinese) IIRC, many more. grml wins so far as it does what I need, I give it a 9 too.

I think the Debian (and grml) version system, sucks, rpm sucks too, but is less intrusive. I like to work with simple tgz files and compile and install the libs I need by hand. Too much effort goes into making Linux suitable for dummies, that makes it a nuisance for experts. Those package management systems are hell if you want to do anything special, as I always do. And I indeed agree that he best time to install a new distro is when you buy new hardware, but this is about selling you yet an other disk, Those vendors will keep spitting out versions that are incompatible ... How often do you change the engine in your car? Me only when a I buy a new one. That is the target that should be aimed for. A kernel recompile is the most, or adding some libs and applications. That said, I wrote or modified much of what runs here myself so that is a bit of a special situation.

Fedora is Redhat's beta testing ground for their flagship OS, I stopped using Redhat after they stuffed up during 6.2 and later releases, moved to Slackware, which I find suits me. Opensuse is annoying for much the same reasons as Redhat, poor package management and systems that fall over too easily.

Slackware avoids automating easy tasks, so when there's a problem it's easy to find and fix it. Not for everyone. Some like Debian, I can't stand it. Most other Linux distros are derivatives of older distros, so I don't bother with them, apart from the specialist Live CDs that are the right tool for some tasks.

Grant.

binding,

as maximum:

support: ZERO or -1

was fixed later, but I left Suse.

really get used to apt-get and stuff).

and also the kernel.

IIRC, many more.

intrusive.

hand.

nuisance for experts.

Yes :)

as I always do.

new hardware,

I do allocate space for a spare Linux install, it makes upgrading to the next version easy, and also provides a spot for testing a different distro. I haven't surveyed Linux distros since 2004 when I chose Slackware, after running Redhat for some years. I tried different distros when I got 64bit hardware, before Slackware offered a 64bit version, but not happy with them. A friend uses Opensuse, so I try that more often, but it's not good enough for me to change.

Also, I don't yet run Linux desktop, I'm happy using the best of windows and Linux. But I no longer do software development on windows, prefer Linux for 'real' computing :)

Grant.

of a special situation.

less intrusive.

by hand.

nuisance for experts.

as I always do.

new hardware,

of a special situation.

Older versions of debian may have been a bit command line and arcane, but recently installed the latest squeeze on a laptop to run openocd and am quite impressed. Have always used suse in the past, but it's a bit too embelished out of the box these days and you need to turn too much stuff of to make it usable. Debian looks much more understated out of the box. Have been planning to build a Linux box for some time for software dev to complement the solaris 10 machine. Just bought a DL380 G4 Proliant on ebay (~60 ukp) for the task and it looks like debian will be the choice so far. Looks good enough and don't have time to review all the others...

Regards,

Chris '

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binding,

as maximum:

give support: ZERO or -1

was fixed later, but I left Suse.

really get used to apt-get and stuff).

libs, and also the kernel.

IIRC, many more.

less intrusive.

by hand.

nuisance for experts.

as I always do.

new hardware,

of a special situation.

My two main work machines are both Kubuntu 10.04 LTS / XP dual boot, and stay on the Linux side most of the time. They pretty well work, though Linux on laptops is always a bit hit-or-miss--the T43 I'm writing this on doesn't suspend when I close the lid, and dims the screen randomly. It works very well otherwise, though, and (unlike Windows) it does what it's told.

Windows is still necessary to run some stuff, e.g. XP runs DOS apps very much better than DosBox or dosemu, and Wine just isn't good enough for professional work IME--just one crash with lost data can easily cost more than a shiny new Win7 laptop.

The Debian package managers are unspeakably primitive compared with yum.

When I need stability more than the latest device support, I use CentOS (or the Rocks cluster distro, which sits on top of CentOS).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Principal
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Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
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email: hobbs (atsign) electrooptical (period) net
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You got that last word in the above line incorrect.

Jamie

The power problem on the laptop would probably go away if you ran straight Ubuntu.

That claim about XP and DOSBox is untrue. I cannot get an 800x600 screen on OrCAD under ANY DOS or Windows. I cannot get 1280x1024 on TangoPCB editor with any DOS or Windows VDM either. Under DOSBox, I definitely can.

Tango was written in Pascal and I don't know what OrCAD's early years were underpinned with.

You just have to fiddle with the setting for a while to get an app 'dialed in', then keep that setup under a for that app.

Another app that uses the video card by user specs is "Mame".

Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator.

Want to learn more about ANY processor that was in use in the 80s?

This app emulates over 8000 upright arcade video games perfectly with the original game code, so it is the exact original game, except that you now have it on your 50" screen instead of the little 19" it was released on.

That emulator has emulation code for every CPU you could think of that was being used back then (non-military). It renders things very nicely as well. Remember, these games are the very roots of using a computer to model reality or mechanical action in various forms and manners.

We go from monochrome through 4 bit color (CGA) up through today's 64 million color typical stuff.

It happens to be one of the best, most kept up developments in the entire open community (mame). At least as it relates to computerized gaming. It used to be called SDLMame in Linux, but SDL is now integrated into the main development. There is also a windows version: mameUI32 or

64 dot exe.

That dot-three release might be the last one from what I just saw.

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My issue was only opensuse recognized the nvidia fake raid during the installation. This may be different now, but a few years ago, they were clearly the winner.

Opensuse has libraries in what I suppose are not consistent with debian based systems that dominate the market today. Nothing that a few symbolic links can't fix, but you would think that if the distributions can't agree on where libraries should be found, they could put in enough symbolic links so that they are all compatible.

I change the oil every 7500 miles using Mobile One 15k rated oil, but I'm nuts about engine wear. Don't even get me started on how to break in an engine other than driving at one RPM for a long time is very bad.

Back to linux, opensuse would have to be really really broken to make me switch since I've run it for 15 years. If there was something in another distri that I had to have, I'd suppose I'd switch. And with the Novel sale, I suspect the full time suse staff ain't what it used to be. Hell KDE aint what it used to be since Nokia used to fund those guys.

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libs, and also the kernel.

(Chinese) IIRC, many more.

less intrusive.

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nuisance for experts.

as I always do.

new hardware,

of a special situation.

But knowing a distro that well means you can install the missing bits to _get_ the whizz-bang from another distro, because the source is out there.

Same reason I'm now unlikely to move away from Slackware, not because of some superiority to other distros, but because I can drive it effectively now, no steep learning curve, and I easily can add stuff from elsewhere when required.

Is there a decent schematic capture and PCB program for Linux? I'm using freebie Eagle at the moment, returning to doing layouts after near two decades, used to use pcad on ms-dos (on a 6MHz PC-AT, slow).

I still use windows desktop -- basically no change since Win95, apart from more eye-candy. And, I can turn off the eye candy to get needed processing speed.

One would hope Novell keep the Linux guys funded, Suse has funded much Linux development over the years.

Grant.