But like I said, those Logic Supply boards DO work with Knoppix. It's not my choice for linux. I run opensuse with KDE. Yeah I know, Suse is evil because Novel works with Microsoft. Blah blah blah whatever, it works great. I don't know about current distros, but opensuse was the only distro four years ago that recognized my nvidia fake raid with zero effort on my part.
Oh, now I like bolting these buggers together. However, it is more than an afternoon of work since you need to find out what components to use to make a stable design.
On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:09:51 -0700) it happened TheGlimmerMan wrote in :
Look, I dunno why you are still posting here, maybe you once installed a Linux (or rather ran a Knoppix disk), and now think you are an expert. As a Linux user I am still waiting for a contribution from you to the source code. Try a small 'hello world' program like this perhaps:
#include #include
int main(int argc, char **argv) { fprintf(stdout, "I the TheGlimmerMan apologise to the members of this group s.e.d for my bad language.\n");
On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:11:56 -0700) it happened TheGlimmerMan wrote in :
No mobo? No DVD burner? No TV and sat cards? Only ONE HD? No power supply? No fans? No super video card? No extra I/O? No extra network ports? No extra USB ports USB3 perhaps? You spit out your clues with all the other stuff that escaped it seems. Not to mention the housing the thing needs, monitor to go with it, keyboard[s], mice, ethernet switch, wireless, etc etc, hey I am just looking at my setup.
I just added a Logitech MK320 wireless desktop so I can remote control the PC as media centre from the end of the viewing area. I extended that area after getting a 3D 46 inch. Choices. And then it all needs software, half of it still needs to be written. Are you by any chance an expert on using libupnp?
On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:54:40 -0700) it happened TheDimmerMan screamed:
I do not recompile kernel except if I need a new driver for new hardware. How often do you replace the engine in your car?
Why? So you can do faster insults?
Better to get a bug free system with one kernel. Usually upgrading kernel requires upgrading some apps too. Not that that makes bugs go away, it does introduce new ones though.
This is what runs here: grml: ~ # uname -a Linux grml 2.6.21 #1 Fri Feb 18 21:10:00 CET 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
Last kernel recompile Feb 18 21:10:00 CET 2011 to enable Nokia ACM support.
I keep a good recod of what is done, all config files:
On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:57:58 -0700) it happened TheGlimmerMan wrote in :
It would help if you had even the slightest clue what you are talking about. That clue lacking I cannot answer your question. Did you ever configure and compile a new kernel? How did you test it, grub? And why?
On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:13:49 -0700) it happened TheGlimmerMan wrote in :
Given your evasive answer I have to conclude you never configured a kernel, and then compiled it. Neither did you contribute any source, you are just installing one distro after the other without ever learning about Unix, It is not that you give Linux a bad name, it is just that you are irrelevant to any in depth issue and discussion regarding it.
Trying to understand an idiot is dangerous. If you had any hands on experience configuring a kernel you could give plenty of feedback and examples. So, it seems it is all hear-say, just like your electronics. Rather sad, you will not learn it here, as it requires some basic knowledge of the subject to understand what is discussed here. I have noticed several people on Usenet hanging around, but never taking up on the subject of the group they are in, due to lack of basic knowledge. So if you really HAVE an interest in the subject of Unix, operating systems, Electronics, etc. then please go to an university and study it. Nobody here can help you advance if you lack basics.
That's what's annoying about assembling PCs. You can't actually understand what's going on. You can't intelligently probe waveforms, or read source code, or do any analysis much beyond checking power supplies with a DVM.
That's why some teenagers are "experts" at assembling systems, even though they know nothing about electronics or software or thermodynamics. They just learn how to plug things in, and download drivers, and muck around until it works. Their "find out what components to use to make a stable design" is just fiddling and experience and superstitious learning, not really design.
When we design an embedded system, we work all the way down to uP instruction set, port pins, chip data sheets, PCB trace impedances, FPGA code. If we have a problem, we run a JTAG debugger and step code, or analyze the hardware with a scope or logic analyzer, or write a test program, and _understand_ what's going on.
If someone has spent all that time to learn how to bolt stuff together and make it work, I'm happy to pay them to do it for me. Logicsupply charged me $49 for "build and test", which is a pretty good deal.
fanless ATOM, assembled and tested for $279, with personal support and a guarantee that the bios supports auto powerup. If I like it, maybe we'll start using them in test stands and such. They are so cheap you could use them all over the place, for all sorts of dumb applications, and keep a closet full of spares.
It would be interesting to build a test stand using one or more of this sort of computer and a bunch of cheap no-display USB instruments. Paying for a bunch of front panels and LCDs and knobs on every scope and DVM and spectrum analyzer may no longer make sense.
# Version: 4.2/32.1118 # Date added: January 15, 2009 # Price: Free to try (30-day trial); $29.00 to buy # Operating system: Windows 95/98/Me/2000/XP/NT
I wonder where the Linux went? Maybe it's a Knoppix he can't install.
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you can see by the headers.)
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