Best Monitor?

Dec 16, 2011 49 Replies

I use a ViewSonic VP2365wb at work. 23", 1900x1080 pixies, 178°x178° viewing angle. $300 at Newegg.

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This monitor works quite well and the combination with my Nvidia base graphics board, the out of box color calibration was very close to properly calibrated.

You want a monitor with 178°x178° viewing angle which means it's a IPS type display. The VP2365 is the cheapest IPS montitor I could find. PVA monitors are inexpensive and also support wide viewing angles, but quality can be an issue depending on manufacturer.

To fix your other monitor, you can take it apart and replace the bulging capacitors around the switching power supplies. I've taken in

4 dead monitors and replaced the bulging electrolytics. Now I have 4 perfectly good monitors. Only expect your monitor to last about 2 to 3 years before needing a capacitor change-out.
Mark

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I got a ViewSonic VA2448, $179 at Amazon, seems to have plenty of viewing angle... and it works on my old KVM switch just fine, so XP _and_ 2K machines are happy talking to it... as well as the ThinkPad. Only thing I have to tweak... out of the box it's a wee bit too bright, but the colors are good... and I can get a schematic _and_ Probe up there side-by-side that even my old eyes can enjoy.

No time, I "blue-canned" it :-) ...Jim Thompson

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The problem with Radio Shack parts is that, past generic specs, you don't really know what you're getting and you're better off going to Mouser where a proper data sheet is readily available.

In particular, for this application you should look for low ESR, unless you don't mind replacing them again relatively soon.

The backlight inverter runs large ripple currents so high ESR will cause excessive heating and premature failure, which is the original problem.

That was probably a TN panel. You'll be surprised at the difference between TN and IPS, especially in view angle and color rendition. However, for the type of work you do, TN works quite well. For images, TN is not good. All monitors come out of the box with the brightness set too high for an office environment. Most people don't know they can turn the brightness down thus suffer from headaches.

If you don't mind spending $400,

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is a nice monitor with proper resolution (1920x1200).

BIG.

I prefer the Panasonic FM series from Digikey to any thing Mouser carries.

You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

BIG.

You mean these?

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The nice thing about the upper end NEC displays is they have a field flattening option. They call it "uniformity". Basically the upper end NEC displays are what goes into the LaCie products. Eizo has a similar field flattening feature in their top of the line monitors. Basically these monitors electronically adjust the brightness to compensate for variation in the backlight illumination.

Some of the HP monitors are SPVA.

Note going beyond 1920x1200 usually requires dual link. You need to see if you card and KVM (if used) can do dual link. Personally, at some point, the monitor is simply too big. I wouldn't go past 27 inches.

Note that with windows, too much resolution can be a bad thing. The OS at present isn't really set up for 2560x1400 on a 27 inch display.

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The nice thing about the upper end NEC displays is they have a field flattening option. They call it "uniformity". Basically the upper end NEC displays are what goes into the LaCie products. Eizo has a similar field flattening feature in their top of the line monitors. Basically these monitors electronically adjust the brightness to compensate for variation in the backlight illumination.

Some of the HP monitors are SPVA.

Note going beyond 1920x1200 usually requires dual link. You need to see if you card and KVM (if used) can do dual link. Personally, at some point, the monitor is simply too big. I wouldn't go past 27 inches.

Note that with windows, too much resolution can be a bad thing. The OS at present isn't really set up for 2560x1400 on a 27 inch display.

I just bought an LG IPS236V.

23"IPS panel 1920x1080 LED backlight D-SUB, DVI, HDMI connections $180 last week at Best Buy.

I've got a couple of them in front of me right now. Even on deep discount, they weren't all that cheap. Absolutely beautiful display- especially for editing photos etc. Not the kind of harsh narrow-angle display on the cheap-ass 24" 1920 x 1080 units (which I also have a couple of for other applications).

The USB ports are a bit silly, and they run pretty hot, and it would have been nice if they pivoted, but other that that, a great monitor. Oh, and my vintage FX1500 $$$ CAD-certified video card isn't perfect on them (no screen caps, but everything else works okay).

If you don't care about color quality (eg. for CAD work), a 30" 2560 x

1600 might be a better value (or two). I really like my pair of 305T's for CAD but the panels are not reliable (not the caps- the panel dies and the unit is not repairable even by Samsung).

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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How so? I have no problems with Win7 on two 2560 x 1600 displays- the computer is a couple of years old now. Lots of two head dual link cards available- quite cheap if a gaming card will do.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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BIG.

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They didn't list the FM line when I needed them a while back, and Digikey was out of stock for over six months.

You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

The VA2448 is TFT, I believe. For his use I doubt there would be much difference at all, particularly between a TFT and IPS.

TFT isn't all that bad. I have a cheap-ass ($250 four years ago) 24"

1920x1200 Soyo and it's OK for anything I do. It's only flaw is the crummy stand. I may replace it soon but I don't see that an IPS monitor is worth the money, over TFT.

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Colour rendition and wide viewing angle are where IPS screens excel.

Anyway the OP asked for "best" and did not specify his criteria. I took it to mean gold plated. If he doesn't do serious photography then it would be a serious waste of good kit.

He might find something helpful at (and reviews):

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And some people do find the wider colour gamut hard on the eyes - it was one of things I agonised about for a while before buying one.

That's a bit sad. How do they fail? I guess the new LED backlit ones should be less inlcined to croak.

Regards, Martin Brown

Intermittent strobing bands across the screen- presumably the drivers or connections to them.

Perhaps, if only because they should run a bit cooler.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Total bullshit. My display operates at 2048 x 1152 native. No such graphics adapter is required and my current adapter is three years old.

The display size has nothing to do with it. It is tied to array size only.

A total retard like you, thinking you have all the answers when you are really absolutely clueless, is a very bad thing.

Display adapters feed rendered array sizes, they do not know a damned thing about the display size that array is inside of.

I currently use a 40" display, and it works on both a new W7 machine and my atom fed XP machine. The array size, however, is standard, and has been fed by vid cards for years.

Essentially, you have failed at making s*it up as you go along... again.

You're a goddamned idiot. It has nothing to do with the OS. It has everything to do with the video card in the system.

Fixed that irritant.. it was actually a Photoshop/Nvidia issue. Had to enable OpenGL rendering under "Edit/Preferences/Performance" and PrtScn/Alt-PrtScn work 100% now.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

I use Greenshot for screen captures. ...Jim Thompson

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In Windows 7 a full screen, full resolution capture is a simple keypress.

Not bad- the lightweight editor loads almost instantly.

It would be nice if it supported hotkey (Ctrl+/Ctrl-) or mousewheel zoom, and maybe inserting images such as logos- it might be possible to avoid loading a full-featured image editing program entirely in most cases.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

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