AT&T DSL

I have U-Verse, which is DSL for the Internet connection. Although it is not as fast as cable, I can tell you the service from AT&T is MUCH better than Comcast. Also, unless you are downloading tons of data, you will probably find it fast enough. It is fast enough for me. I have had U-Verse for over three years now and am very pleased.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:40:40 -0500, Ken wrote in Re Re: AT&T DSL:

My data usage is about 8Gbytes/month total down/up. Just curious: what download speed do you typically get from U-Verse?

I don't remember my speed, and I have Verizon, but I used to use some pretty thin phone wire (the kind used to go from the wall to the phone) to go from the the interface box 50 feet to the DSL modem. When I swtiched to thicker, stiffer, round, white wire, my download speed tripled and is now about what Verizon promised.

So when it was slower, it was my fault.

Not buying it. After a mile of 24ga wire, a few tens of feet of 26ga isn't going to matter a whit. You had something else wrong that replacing the wire solved (or it was a good placebo).

Well it was no placebo. I'd measured my speed a dozen times on a website that does that before I changed the wire; and I measure it a dozen times after I changed the wire, and it was consistent before and consistent afterwards.

As to why it changed, transmission of computer data is more complicated than analog sound or power to run a light bulb. I added sci.electronics.repair and maybe we'll find someone there who knows more than we do.

I don't know one, but maybe there's an active newsgroup that specializes in this sort of thing.

Isn't Verizon FTTH?

I have Verizon DSL, and no fibers.

Maybe.

After a mile of (really) crappy 24ga. wire, not so much.

What sort of stuff? Electronics?

No maybe. Do you think I can't read a number off the screen?

Yes, much. And there's more to the story.

I had bought special THIN phone wire with modular ends, so it would go through a narrow space. After I installed that, I could still listen to webradio but I couldn't download webpages. So I went back to the wire I had been using (typical wire, not especially thin, from the wall to the phone, with modular ends.) and everything worked again.

So then I though, maybe even this wire is too thin, and I changed to the round white wire with 4 wires inside, thicker, each wire is stiffer. It didnt' have modular plugs so I had to put a modular wall jack on each end, and plug a short modular cord in each end, and when connected, that's when the download speed tripled.

First of all the problem wouldn't be the guage of the wire at all, it would be interconductor capacitance. You're not running an air conditioner, you are sending a radio signal.

Unless your system is timing out, speed should not be an issue for regular webpages. If the webradio is supplied separately by the ISP it's one thing but I assume you just mean it online, which require the downloading of a pa ge no ? Maybe it's new on me, but I would think all of this uses the same f requencies, and webpages loaded a long time before there was streaming audi o on the net.

No matter what I would repeat the test a whole bunch of times. First of all every time you disconnect the thing the modem has to reacquire the signal, and who knows what happens then in the way of what error correction might be applied.

Also note that DSL, which is usually ASDL, is not all that fast in the firs t place. Uverse might be different but if it has to come through a phone li ne it has to come through a phone line, period.

A lot of those drugstore phone wires only have red and green.

En el artículo , micky escribió:

That's entirely possible. You changed untwisted wire for twisted pair wire. Twisted pair cancels out interference, so I can well believe you saw an increase in your DSL sync speed.

I have no idea what you're reading or what else is going on. In short, yes.

No f'n way. Unless physics is different on your planet. What color is your sky?

You have something else wrong. A few tens of feet of wire isn't going to do it.

You probably had noise on the line. Perhaps the ends were rectifying a radio station, dunno, but it was *NOT* caused by thin wire.

Disintrest in knowledge noted.

Nope. After a mile of crappy phone company, ten feet of more crap isn't going to matter.

En el artículo , snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz escribió:

Clueless. Killfiled.

Sure it is. Do you understand what twisted-pair is? And why it's necessary?

The "mile of crappy phone company" wire is twisted pair for a reason. I'd suggest you learn something about RF signal propagation, which is what we're discussing for DSL.

Jerry

specializes in this sort of thing. "

Try in sci.electronics.design , at least they know what capacitance is. the se people seem to think you are losing the signal resistively through the w ire which is not true. What must be happening is thatt he conductors are to o close together effectively forming a capacitor.

Run it by SED, they're just as cocky, but got more reason apparently.

You're wrong, but you don't care about the facts.