wtf "DSP"?

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PB>> ÷ÏÔ changelist ÆÉÒÍÅÎÎÏÇÏ âðæ ÏÔ AD: PB>> FFTRAD2.ASM ADSP-21060 Radix-2 DIT Complex Fast Fourier PB>> Transform DT> á ÇÄÅ ÂÙ ×ÚÑÔØ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÐÏÄÏÂÎÏÅ ÎÁ C? ôÏÌØËÏ complex ÎÅÏÂÑÚÁÔÅÌØÎÏ, DT> ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ real. ë ÓÏÖÁÌÅÎÉÀ, ÎÅ ÚÎÁÀ. ÷ ÉÎÅÔÅ ÐÏËÏÐÁÊÓÑ. ÷ RU.DSP

 OS/2 Hello, ÎÁÉÇÌÕÂÏËÏÕ×ÁÖÁÅÍÅÊÛÉÊ Vladimir!

=== Cut === // éÓÈÏÄÎÉË ÎÁ ó #define N 1024 float xre[N], xim[N], yre[N], yim[N], zre[N], zim[N]; int i; void main(void) { asm volatile("nop; nop; nop;"); for(i = 0; i<N; i++) { zre[i] = xre[i] * yre[i] - xim[i] * yim[i]; zim[i] = xim[i] * yre[i] + xre[i] * yim[i]; } asm volatile("nop; nop; nop;"); };

// òÅÚÕÌØÔÁÔÙ ËÏÐÉÌÑÃÉÉ ÆÒÁÇÍÅÎÔ ÍÅÖÄÕ nop'ÁÍÉ // Copmpilation with opt. level 0 nop; r2=0; dm(_i)=r2; _L$2: r2=dm(_i); r4=1023; comp(r2,r4); if gt jump (pc, _L$3) (DB); nop; nop; r2=dm(_i); r4=_zre; r1=r4+r2; i4=r1; r2=dm(_i); r4=_xre; r1=r4+r2; i0=r1; r2=dm(_i); r4=_yre; r1=r4+r2; i1=r1; f2=dm(i0,m5); f4=dm(i1,m5); f8=f2*f4; r2=dm(_i); r4=_xim; r1=r4+r2; i0=r1; r2=dm(_i); r4=_yim; r1=r4+r2; i1=r1; f2=dm(i0,m5); f4=dm(i1,m5); f12=f2*f4; f2=f8-f12; dm(i4,m5)=f2; r2=dm(_i); r4=_zim; r1=r4+r2; i4=r1; r2=dm(_i); r4=_xim; r1=r4+r2; i0=r1; r2=dm(_i); r4=_yre; r1=r4+r2; i1=r1; f2=dm(i0,m5); f4=dm(i1,m5); f8=f2*f4; r2=dm(_i); r4=_xre; r1=r4+r2; i0=r1; r2=dm(_i); r4=_yim; r1=r4+r2; i1=r1; f2=dm(i0,m5); f4=dm(i1,m5); f12=f2*f4; f2=f8+f12; dm(i4,m5)=f2; _L$4: r2=dm(_i); r4=r2+1; r2=r4; dm(_i)=r2; jump (pc, _L$2) (DB); nop; nop; _L$3:

Copmpilation with opt. level 2

dm(_i)=m5; r15=_zim; _L$5: i1=r7; i2=r3; i4=r9; m4=dm(_i); i0=i5; modify(i2,m4); modify(i1,m4); f5=dm(i2,m5); modify(i4,m4); f1=dm(i1,m5); modify(i0,m4); f2=dm(i4,m5); f8=f1*f5,f4=dm(i0,m5); f12=f2*f4,i3=r13; f8=f8-f12; dm(m4,i3)=f8; f2=dm(i4,m5); f4=dm(i2,m5); f8=f2*f4,r11=m4; r2=r11+1,f1=dm(i1,m5); f4=dm(i0,m5); f12=f1*f4,i3=r15; dm(_i)=r2; comp(r2,r0); if le jump (pc, _L$5) (DB); f8=f8+f12; dm(m4,i3)=f8; // óËÏÌØËÏ ÔÁËÔÏ× ÎÁ ÄÉÓËÒÅÔ ÐÏÌÕÞÉÌÏÓØ × ×ÙÛÅÐÒÉ×ÅÄÅÎÎÙÈ ÐÒÉÍÅÒÁÈ, Ñ ÎÅ ÓÞÉÔÁÌ, ÎÏ × ÎÁÛÅÊ ÓÉÓÔÅÍÅ ×ÓÅ, ÞÔÏ ÂÏÌÅÅ 33 - ÎÅ ÕÓÐÅ×ÁÅÔ.

// Ha ÓÌÁÄËÏÅ - ÒÕÞÎÁÑ ÒÁÂÏÔÁ - 4 ÔÁËÔÁ ÎÁ ÄÉÓËÒÅÔ: x1 = dm(i0, m6), y1 = pm(i8, m14); x2 = dm(i1, m4), y2 = pm(i9, m12); x1x2 = x1 * x2, x2_= dm(i3, m4); y1y2 = y1 * y2; r2 = r2 - 1; LCNTR = r2, DO x_loop UNTIL LCE; x2y1 = x2 * y1, x3 = x1x2 - y1y2, x2_= dm(i3, m4); x1y2 = x1 * y2, x1 = dm(i0, m6), y2=pm(i9, m12); x1x2 = x1 * x2_, y3 = x2y1 + x1y2, x2 = dm(i1, m4), y1=pm(i8, m14); x_loop: y1y2 = y1 * y2, dm(i2, m6) = y3, pm(i10, m14) = x3; x2y1 = x2 * y1, x3 = x1x2 - y1y2; x1y2 = x1 * y2; y3 = x2y1 + x1y2; dm(i2, m6) = y3, pm(i10, m14) = x3; === Cut === HÁ ÆÌÅÊÍ ÐÏ ÄÁÎÎÏÊ ÔÅÍÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ ÎÅ ÏÔ×ÅÞÁÀ. (ÎÁ ÎÅÆÌÅÊÍ - ÏÔ×ÅÞÁÀ ;)

Sun Oct 16 2005 17:26, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Evgeny Kotsuba:

PB> *** ïÔ×ÅÔ ÎÁ ÐÉÓØÍÏ ÉÚ ÏÂÌÁÓÔÉ PRIVATE ( PB> Á ÍÏÅ ÉÍÑ).

PB>  OS/2 PB> Hello, ÎÁÉÇÌÕÂÏËÏÕ×ÁÖÁÅÍÅÊÛÉÊ Evgeny!

PB> 15 Oct 05 22:36, Evgeny Kotsuba wrote to Pavel Berdashkewich:

EK>> ÄÌÑ ÔÉÐÏ×ÙÈ ÚÁÄÁÞ ÂÅÒÅÔÓÑ ÎÁÂÏÒ ÔÉÐÏ×ÙÈ ÆÕÎËÃÉÊ ÉÚ ÂÉÂÌÉÏÔÅËÉ, ÐÌÀÓ EK>> ÏÐÔÉÍÉÚÁÔÏÒ ÔÏÖÅ ÎÉËÔÏ ÎÅ ÏÔÍÅÎÑÌ, ÔÁË ÞÔÏ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÌÉ ÒÁÚÎÉÃÁ

PB> èÏÒÏÛÉÊ ÏÐÔÉÍÉÚÁÔÏÒ - ÂÏÌØÛÁÑ ÒÅÄËÏÓÔØ. ×ÓÅ ÏÔÎÏÓÉÔÅÌØÎÏ

EK>> ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÏÊ - "ÜÔ ÍÙ ÅÝÅ ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÉÍ" (c) ÔÏ×ÁÒÉÝ óÕÈÏ×. ÎÅ ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ ÕÖÅ EK>> Ï ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏÍ (ÄÌÑ ÍÅÎÑ) ÖÅÌÁÎÉÉ - ÕÎÕÔÒÅ DSP ×ÏÚÉÔÓÑ Ó ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÍÉ EK>> ÞÉÓÌÁÍÉ ;-)

PB> ëÁË ÎÉ ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏ, ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÁ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÁ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ × ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÈ ÞÉÓÌÁÈ. PB> RU.DSP Welcome!

SY, EK

Hello, Pavel Berdashkewich! You wrote in conference fido7.ru.embedded to Dmitry Orlov on Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:41

PB> У нас ситуация обратная. Все на пределе. Алгоритмов много, PB> данных много...

Если все на пределе, нужно брать процессор по-мощнее.

dima

Sun Oct 16 2005 17:22, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Vladimir Vassilevsky:

PB>>> HÕ, ÅÓÌÉ ÏÞÅÎØ ÈÏÞÅÛØ, ÍÏÖÅÛØ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÔØ ÎÁ ó ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÕ PB>>> ÐÅÒÅÍÎÏÖÅÎÉÑ Ä×ÕÈ ÍÁÓÓÉ×Ï× ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÈ ÞÉÓÅÌ. ñ ÎÁÐÉÛÕ ÎÁ áóí ÄÌÑ PB>>> ADSP21062. VV>> õÖÅ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: VV>> #include <complex>

VV>> typedef std::complex <float> complex; VV>> complex *x, *y, *z; VV>> for(int i = 0; i < 12345; i++) z[i] = x[i] * y[i]; PB> áÊ, ÍÏÌÏÄÃÁ! ë ÓÏÖÁÌÅÎÉÀ, ÜÔÏ ÓËÏÍÐÉÌÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ.

PB>>> ðÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÐÒÏÓÔÁÑ -20 ÒÁÚ ÎÅ ÏÂÅÝÁÀ, ÎÁ _ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÁÑ ÒÁÚÎÉÃÁ PB>>> ÂÕÄÅÔ. VV>> ëÏÇÏ ÜÔÏ ×ÏÌÎÕÅÔ? PB> ñ ÐÏÒÁÖÅÎ É ÕÈÏÖÕ.

VLV

"äÅÎØÇÉ - ÜÔÏ ÄÌÑ ÂÏÇÁÔÙÈ" (Ó) Fantozzi

Sun Oct 16 2005 17:02, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Vladimir Vassilevsky:

VV>>>> óËÁÖÅÍ ÔÁË: ÄÏ ÎÅÄÁ×ÎÉÈ ×ÒÅÍÅÎ DSP ÜÔÏ ÂÙÌÉ ÓËÏÒÅÅ VV>>>> ÓÏÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÙ, ÞÅÍ PB>>> äÏ ËÁËÉÈ ËÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏ ×ÒÅÍÅÎ? VV>> äÏ ÐÏÑ×ÌÅÎÉÑ BlackFin É TMS ÓÅÒÉÊ 55xx É 28xx. PB> ôÏÔ ÖÅ ûÁÒË ÎÅ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒ?

SHARC ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÉÔ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÅ ÎÅÄÏÄÅÌÁÎÎÏÇÏ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÁ. éÚÎÁÞÁÌØÎÁÑ ÉÄÅÑ ×ÅÓØÍÁ ÎÅÐÌÏÈÁ, ÎÏ ×ÉÄÉÍÏ ÉÈ ÓÉÌØÎÏ ÐÏÄÖÉÍÁÌÉ ÓÒÏËÉ É ÒÅÓÕÒÓÙ. ÷ ÒÅÚÕÌØÔÁÔÅ ÓÍÅÓØ ËÒÁÓÉ×ÙÈ É ÄÅÂÉÌØÎÅÊÛÉÈ ÒÅÛÅÎÉÊ. þÅÇÏ ÓÔÏÉÔ ÈÏÔÑ ÂÙ ÏÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÑ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ.

VV>> HÅÕÄÁÞÎÙÊ × ËÏÍÍÅÒÞÅÓËÏÍ ÓÍÙÓÌÅ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒ, ÏËÁÚÁ×ÛÉÊÓÑ ÓÌÉÛËÏÍ VV>> ÄÏÒÏÇÉÍ É ÖÒÕÝÉÍ ÄÌÑ Consumer É ÓÌÉÛËÏÍ ÓÌÁÂÙÍ ÄÌÑ VV>> Telecom/Military/Airspace. PB> ÷ ÔÅÌÅËÏÍ, ÎÁÓËÏÌØËÏ Ñ ÚÎÁÀ, ÂÏÌØÛÅ ôíó ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÀÔ, PB> Á ×ÏÔ íÉÌÉÔÁÒÉ/áÊÒÓÐÅÊÓ - ÏÎ ÏÞÅÎØ ÁËÔÉ×ÎÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÅÔÓÑ.

VV>> 66 MMACs - ÏÞÅÎØ ÎÅÂÏÌØÛÁÑ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔØ, ÏÓÏÂÅÎÎÏ ÚÁ ÔÕ ÃÅÎÕ, VV>> ÓËÏÌØËÏ ÓÔÏÉÔ SHARC. ðÏÔÒÅÂÌÅÎÉÅ × ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ×ÁÔÔ ÐÒÉ ÔÁËÏÊ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔÉ VV>> - ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ÎÅÐÒÉÓÔÏÊÎÏ ÍÎÏÇÏ. PB> ðÒÉ ÎÁÌÉÞÉÉ ôó - ÄÁ. ÷ 1996 ÂÙÌÏ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÌÕÞÛÅ?

PB> á ÚÁ ÐÒÏÇÒÅÓÓÏÍ ÎÅ ÕÓÐÅÅÛØ. ôÁË É ÖÉÔØ ÔÅÈÎÏÌÏÇÉÑÍÉ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÂÙÌÉ ÕÓÔÁÒÅ×ÛÉÍÉ ÕÖÅ × 1996 ÇÏÄÕ?

PB>>> 21060 ×ÙÛÅÌ, ËÁÖÅÔÓÑ, × 1996. VV>> ó ÏÇÒÏÍÎÙÍ ËÏÌÉÞÅÓÔ×ÏÍ ÂÁÇÏ×, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ-ÍÅÎÅÅ ÉÓÐÒÁ×ÉÌÉ ÎÁ VV>> ÓÅÇÏÄÎÑÛÎÉÊ ÄÅÎØ.

PB> äÏËÕÍÅÎÔÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÁÑ ÂÁÇÁ - ÆÉÞÁ. õ ÎÁÓ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÙ ÎÅ ÐÏÚÖÅ 2000Ç. PB> òÁÂÏÔÁÅÍ - ÂÁÇÉ ÏÂÈÏÄÉÍ. SHARC ÄÏÒÏÇÏÊ ÍÅÄÌÅÎÎÙÊ ÓÉÌØÎÏÖÒÕÝÉÊ ÕÂÏÇÉÊ ÎÅÄÏÄÅÌÁÎÎÙÊ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒ, ËÏÔÏÒÏÍÕ ÎÅÄÁÌÅËÏ ÄÏ ÓÎÑÔÉÑ Ó ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÓÔ×Á. ëÁËÏÊ ÓÍÙÓÌ ÚÁËÌÁÄÙ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÎÁ ÎÅÇÏ ÓÅÇÏÄÎÑ - ÎÅ ÐÏÎÉÍÁÀ.

VLV

"äÅÎØÇÉ - ÜÔÏ ÄÌÑ ÂÏÇÁÔÙÈ" (Ó) Fantozzi

Hello Pavel.

Sun Oct 16 2005 17:29, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to me:

PB>>> FFTRAD2.ASM ADSP-21060 Radix-2 DIT Complex Fast Fourier PB>>> Transform DT>> á ÇÄÅ ÂÙ ×ÚÑÔØ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÐÏÄÏÂÎÏÅ ÎÁ C? ôÏÌØËÏ complex ÎÅÏÂÑÚÁÔÅÌØÎÏ, DT>> ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ real. PB> ë ÓÏÖÁÌÅÎÉÀ, ÎÅ ÚÎÁÀ. ÷ ÉÎÅÔÅ ÐÏËÏÐÁÊÓÑ. ÷ RU.DSP

Dimmy.

 OS/2 Hello, ÎÁÉÇÌÕÂÏËÏÕ×ÁÖÁÅÍÅÊÛÉÊ Vladimir!

VV>>> typedef std::complex <float> complex; VV>>> complex *x, *y, *z; VV>>> for(int i = 0; i < 12345; i++) z[i] = x[i] * y[i]; PB>> áÊ, ÍÏÌÏÄÃÁ! ë ÓÏÖÁÌÅÎÉÀ, ÜÔÏ ÓËÏÍÐÉÌÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ. VV> ðÏÈÏÖÅ, ÔÙ ÅÝÅ ÍÁÌ, ÇÌÕÐ É ÎÅ ×ÓÔÒÅÞÁÌ ÂÏÌØÛÉÈ ÚÁ...ÔÒÕÄÎÅÎÉÊ. ðÏÓÌÅÄÎÉÊ ÁÒÇÕÍÅÎÔ?

PB>>>> ðÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÐÒÏÓÔÁÑ -20 ÒÁÚ ÎÅ ÏÂÅÝÁÀ, ÎÁ _ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÁÑ ÒÁÚÎÉÃÁ PB>>>> ÂÕÄÅÔ. VV>>> ëÏÇÏ ÜÔÏ ×ÏÌÎÕÅÔ? PB>> ñ ÐÏÒÁÖÅÎ É ÕÈÏÖÕ.

VV> úÁËÒÏÊÔÅ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÏÊ Ä×ÅÒØ É ÓËÁÔÅÒÔØÀ ÄÏÒÏÖËÁ. òÁÚÂÅÒÕÓØ.

 OS/2 Hello, ÎÁÉÇÌÕÂÏËÏÕ×ÁÖÁÅÍÅÊÛÉÊ Dmitry!

PB>> õ ÎÁÓ ÓÉÔÕÁÃÉÑ ÏÂÒÁÔÎÁÑ. ÷ÓÅ ÎÁ ÐÒÅÄÅÌÅ. áÌÇÏÒÉÔÍÏ× ÍÎÏÇÏ, PB>> ÄÁÎÎÙÈ ÍÎÏÇÏ...

DO> åÓÌÉ ×ÓÅ ÎÁ ÐÒÅÄÅÌÅ, ÎÕÖÎÏ ÂÒÁÔØ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒ ÐÏ-ÍÏÝÎÅÅ. úÎÁÞÉÔ, ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔÉ ÎÅ ÂÙÌÏ.

 OS/2 Hello, ÎÁÉÇÌÕÂÏËÏÕ×ÁÖÁÅÍÅÊÛÉÊ Evgeny!

EK>>> ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÏÊ - "ÜÔ ÍÙ ÅÝÅ ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÉÍ" (c) ÔÏ×ÁÒÉÝ óÕÈÏ×. ÎÅ EK>>> ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ ÕÖÅ Ï ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏÍ (ÄÌÑ ÍÅÎÑ) ÖÅÌÁÎÉÉ - ÕÎÕÔÒÅ DSP ×ÏÚÉÔÓÑ Ó EK>>> ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÍÉ ÞÉÓÌÁÍÉ ;-)

PB>> ëÁË ÎÉ ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏ, ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÁ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÁ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ × ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÈ PB>> ÞÉÓÌÁÈ. RU.DSP Welcome!

EK> ëÁË ÎÉ ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏ, ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÁ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÁ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÅ ÔÏÌØËÏ × ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÈ EK> ÞÉÓÌÁÈ, ÐÒÉÞÅÍ ÔÁËÉÈ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÏ× ÇÏÒÁÚÄÏ ÂÏÌØÛÅ, ÞÅÍ ÔÅÈ, ÄÌÑ ËÏÔÏÒÙÈ EK> ÎÕÖÎÏ FFT & Co

Mon Oct 17 2005 12:51, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Evgeny Kotsuba:

PB>  OS/2 PB> Hello, ÎÁÉÇÌÕÂÏËÏÕ×ÁÖÁÅÍÅÊÛÉÊ Evgeny!

PB> 16 Oct 05 22:42, Evgeny Kotsuba wrote to Pavel Berdashkewich:

EK>>>> ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÏÊ - "ÜÔ ÍÙ ÅÝÅ ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÉÍ" (c) ÔÏ×ÁÒÉÝ óÕÈÏ×. ÎÅ EK>>>> ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ ÕÖÅ Ï ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏÍ (ÄÌÑ ÍÅÎÑ) ÖÅÌÁÎÉÉ - ÕÎÕÔÒÅ DSP ×ÏÚÉÔÓÑ Ó EK>>>> ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÍÉ ÞÉÓÌÁÍÉ ;-)

PB>>> ëÁË ÎÉ ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏ, ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÁ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÁ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ × ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÈ PB>>> ÞÉÓÌÁÈ. RU.DSP Welcome!

EK>> ëÁË ÎÉ ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏ, ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÁ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÁ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÅ ÔÏÌØËÏ × ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÈ EK>> ÞÉÓÌÁÈ, ÐÒÉÞÅÍ ÔÁËÉÈ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÏ× ÇÏÒÁÚÄÏ ÂÏÌØÛÅ, ÞÅÍ ÔÅÈ, ÄÌÑ ËÏÔÏÒÙÈ EK>> ÎÕÖÎÏ FFT & Co

PB> óÏÊÄÅÍÓÑ ÎÁ ÓÅÒÅÄÉÎÅ ÍÅÖÄÕ ÐÅÒ×ÏÊ É ×ÔÏÒÏÊ Ë×ÏÔÁÍÉ? PB> ïÂÒÁÂÏÔËÁ ×ÅÄÅÔÓÑ É ÔÁË É ÓÑË.

HÕ ÔÁË Ñ É ÎÅ ÓÐÏÒÉÌ, ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ÕËÁÚÁÌ, ÞÔÏ ÄÌÑ ÍÅÎÑ - ÏÎÏ ÓÔÒÁÎÎÏ, ÐÏÓËÏÌØËÕ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÙ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ×ÓÅ ÂÏÌØÛÅ "ÅÓÌÉ in1, ÔÏ ËÉÒÄÙË, ÉÎÁÞÅ ÅÓÌÉ in2 É in3, ÔÏ ÓÔÏÐ ÍÁÛÉÎÁ, ÉÎÁÞÅ - ÐÅÄÁÌØ ÇÁÚÁ × ÐÏÌ". åÓÌÉ ÓÉÌØÎÏ ÐÒÉÓÐÉÞÉÔ ÚÁÎÉÍÁÔØÓÑ ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÍÉ ÞÉÓÌÁÍÉ - Ñ ÂÙ ÓÔÁÌ ÜÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÔØ × ÐÉÓÉ. HÏ ÜÔÏ ÞÉÓÔÏ ÍÏÊ ËÏÎËÒÅÔÎÙÊ ÏÐÙÔ.

SY, EK

Sun Oct 16 2005 16:53, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Yuriy K: DO>>>> ðÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÒÅÁÌØÎÏÇÏ ×ÒÅÍÅÎÉ ÄÏÌÖÎÁ ÕÓÐÅ×ÁÔØ ÚÁ ÒÅÁÌØÎÙÍ DO>>>> ×ÒÅÍÅÎÅÍ. PB>>> óÏ×ÅÒÛÅÎÎÏ ×ÅÒÎÏ! PB>>> á Ó ÕÞÅÔÏÍ ÔÏÇÏ, ÞÔÏ ÒÅÓÕÒÓÏ×, ËÁË ÐÒÁ×ÉÌÏ, ×ÓÅÇÄÁ ÎÅ È×ÁÔÁÅÔ, YK>> ðÌÏÈÏÅ, ÎÅÇÏÄÎÏÅ ÐÒÁ×ÉÌÏ. òÅÓÕÒÓÏ×, ÄÏÌÖÎÏ ÂÙÔØ Ó ÉÚÂÙÔËÏÍ.

PB> éÚÂÙÔÏË ÉÚÂÙÔËÕ - ÒÏÚÎØ. ïÂÙÞÎÏ ËÌÁÄÅÔÓÑ 30..50%, ÎÏ ÏÔÎÏÓÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ÞÅÇÏ PB> ÓÞÉÔÁÔØ? ïÔÎÏÓÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ÔÏÇÏ, ÞÔÏ ÒÅÁÌØÎÏ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ, ÎÏ ÎÉËÔÏ ÔÅÂÅ ÎÅ ÄÁÓÔ PB> 100 ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÏ×, ÔÁÍ, ÇÄÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÏÂÏÊÔÉÓØ ÄÅÓÑÔØÀ.

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PB>>> ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÄÏÌÖÎÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ ËÁË ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ. YK>> äÏÌÖÎÁ ËÏÍÕ?

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PB> (ÍÏÖÎÏ ÅÝÅ ×ÏÅÎÎÏÇÏ ÎÁÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÑ).

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PB>>> åÓÌÉ ÔÁËÏÊ ÚÁÐÁÓ ÅÓÔØ, ÔÏ ÖÅÌÅÚÏ ÎÁÇÒÕÖÁÅÔÓÑ ÄÏÐÏÌÎÉÔÅÌØÎÙÍÉ PB>>> ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍÁÍÉ, YK>> úÁÞÅÍ × ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÅ ÎÅÎÕÖÎÙÅ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍÙ? PB> ÷ÎÉÍÁÔÅÌØÎÏÅ ÞÔÅÎÉÅ: "ÄÏÐÏÌÎÉÔÅÌØÎÙÅ".

WBR, Yuriy.

Sun Oct 16 2005 16:59, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Yuriy K:

PB>>> HÕ, ÅÓÌÉ ÏÞÅÎØ ÈÏÞÅÛØ, ÍÏÖÅÛØ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÔØ ÎÁ ó ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÕ PB>>> ÐÅÒÅÍÎÏÖÅÎÉÑ Ä×ÕÈ ÍÁÓÓÉ×Ï× ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÎÙÈ ÞÉÓÅÌ. ñ ÎÁÐÉÛÕ ÎÁ áóí ÄÌÑ PB>>> ADSP21062. ÷ÒÅÍÅÎÁ ÐÏÍÅÒÑÅÍ. ðÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÐÒÏÓÔÁÑ -20 ÒÁÚ ÎÅ ÏÂÅÝÁÀ, PB>>> ÎÁ _ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÁÑ ÒÁÚÎÉÃÁ ÂÕÄÅÔ. YK>> åÓÌÉ ÏÂÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÙ ÕÓÐÅ×ÁÀÔ, ÔÏ ÔÙ ÚÒÑ ÐÏÔÒÁÔÉÌ ×ÒÅÍÑ. YK>> á ÍÏÇ ÂÙ ÜÔÏ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÐÏÔÒÁÔÉÔØ ÎÁ ÞÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÐÏÌÅÚÎÏÅ.

PB> åÓÌÉ Ñ ×ÙÉÇÒÁÌ ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏÊ ÚÁÐÁÓ, ÔÏ ÍÏÇÕ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÅÇÏ ÎÁ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ PB> ÄÒÕÇÏÅ.

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WBR, Yuriy.

Sun Oct 16 2005 13:46, George Shepelev wrote to Yuriy K:

PB>>> òÅÞØ ÎÅ ÉÄÅÔ Ï ÚÁÐÁÓÅ × ÓÏÔÎÉ ÐÒÏÃÅÎÔÏ×. YK>> âÙ×ÁÅÔ É × ÔÙÓÑÞÉ. ðÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÙ ÎÙÎÞÅ ÄÅÛÅ×ÙÅ.

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WBR, Yuriy.

 OS/2 Hello, ÎÁÉÇÌÕÂÏËÏÕ×ÁÖÁÅÍÅÊÛÉÊ Evgeny!

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Mon Oct 17 2005 12:47, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Vladimir Vassilevsky:

VV>> ðÏÈÏÖÅ, ÔÙ ÅÝÅ ÍÁÌ, ÇÌÕÐ É ÎÅ ×ÓÔÒÅÞÁÌ ÂÏÌØÛÉÈ ÚÁ...ÔÒÕÄÎÅÎÉÊ. PB> ðÏÓÌÅÄÎÉÊ ÁÒÇÕÍÅÎÔ?

PB>>>>> ðÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÐÒÏÓÔÁÑ -20 ÒÁÚ ÎÅ ÏÂÅÝÁÀ, ÎÁ _ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÁÑ ÒÁÚÎÉÃÁ PB>>>>> ÂÕÄÅÔ. VV>>>> ëÏÇÏ ÜÔÏ ×ÏÌÎÕÅÔ? PB>>> ñ ÐÏÒÁÖÅÎ É ÕÈÏÖÕ. VV>> úÁËÒÏÊÔÅ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÏÊ Ä×ÅÒØ É ÓËÁÔÅÒÔØÀ ÄÏÒÏÖËÁ. PB> òÁÚÂÅÒÕÓØ.

"äÅÎØÇÉ - ÜÔÏ ÄÌÑ ÂÏÇÁÔÙÈ" (Ó) Fantozzi

Sun Oct 16 2005 18:46, Pavel Berdashkewich wrote to Vladimir Vassilevsky:

PB> === Cut === PB> // éÓÈÏÄÎÉË ÎÁ ó PB> #define N 1024 HÕ É? ëÁËÏÊ ÐÏÊÎÔ ÔÙ ÈÏÞÅÛØ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ? ó ÔÅÍ, ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÁÓÍÅ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÔØ ÌÕÞÛÉÊ ËÏÄ, ÞÅÍ ÎÁ óÉ - ÎÉËÔÏ ÎÅ ÓÐÏÒÉÔ. ÷ÏÐÒÏÓ × ÔÏÍ, ÞÔÏ × 99.9% ÓÌÕÞÁÅ× ÜÔÏ ÓÏ×ÅÒÛÅÎÎÏ ÎÅ ×ÁÖÎÏ, ÎÅ ÎÕÖÎÏ É ÄÁÖÅ ×ÒÅÄÎÏ. VLV

"äÅÎØÇÉ - ÜÔÏ ÄÌÑ ÂÏÇÁÔÙÈ" (Ó) Fantozzi