Active-HDL 6.1 pricing

haha!

"Active-HDL pricing starts at $5,900."

In article , Allan Herriman writes

Was about to give you a link to the UK distis, but then noticed you're no longer there. Couldn't really imagine agilent jumping ship from Modelsim anyway ;-)

Would you mind me asking why considering Aldec?

I'm looking for a simulation tool that (1) works and (2) handles the current version of Verilog (& pref. VHDL as well) and (3) doesn't have a size limit (or crippled simulation speed) and (4) doesn't cost too much.

There's not as much choice as I had first hoped.

I'm currently using Icarus (which fails on points 1 and 2). I've considered various versions of Modelsim (which fail on either point 3 or point 4). I've considered Riviera (which fails on point 4).

Aldec seems like a logical next step. Any other suggestions?

Regards, Allan.

I have used ModelSim in a couple of jobs as well as part of the low cost or free tools that X and A offer(ed). I contacted Aldec about their simulator since I expected it to be much cheaper. Sadly, it is not and in fact is a bit more expensive. So if ModelSim fails on point 4, then Aldec will too (along with most of the others).

On the other hand, many of the simulations I do run just fine with the speed crippling, so I am ok for the moment.

Have you looked at any of the open source tools? Is that what Icarus is? I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.

Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using an open source tool (Icarus).

My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as "good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).

I wish that someone could prove me wrong!

Regards, Allan.

Hi Allan,

Have you looked at Symphony EDA? It is 10% of Aldec's cost. I use Aldec, but Symphony looks promising to me (I started using it a week ago). It's interface is very similar, but it does not have all the bells and whistles of Active-HDL.

-- Pete

Oops, looking through the thread I see you want a Verilog sim. Symphony is only VHDL.

-- Pete

Downlad a trial from Altec. This prevents you from ascking stupd questions.

Symphony is a good example though.

A one-year node-locked license of the "Standard" version costs US$199. There doesn't seem to be any comparable Verilog simulator in that price range.

Regards, Allan.

Was that directed at me or Rick? Which questions were "stupd" ?

Allan.

questions.

Hi Allan,

Your thread is quite informative. Don't pay attention to such rough letters.

Valeri.

There are plenty of us who would like to use a nice low cost tool such as this, if it works well. Please keep us informed of any issues you find.

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