Paralleling FETS

I'm thinking of using a dual mosfet in a SC-88 package (NTJD4401N), in a current source.

The FET's will be controlled by an LMV611 opamp. They don't state in the datasheet how well matched the pair is (threshold voltage and Rdson).

I read a note from TI on paralleling FETS and it said that process variations for Vt and Rdson for single FETS same production batch were nowhere near the worst case datasheet specs.

Is it a good idea to use Dual FETS like that?

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Hammy
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Reply to
Jon Slaughter

Yes I know I've already read all that and similar stuff in textbooks.

If you want to get anal about it every question posed here as well as SED could be answered by reading a book are googleing.

I post here to ask for practical advice i.e someone who actually has experience doing circuit design and could maybe share insight. A category which excludes you.

Reply to
Hammy

We've found big mismatches, like a volt of Vg, in discrete fets, all from the same batch. Best to close a loop around each fet, or use big source resistors.

John

Reply to
John Larkin

There was a lengthy thread about parallel MOSFETs last December. I did an LTspice simulation, which showed good current sharing among several devices, and when Phil freaked out about it, I did an actual breadboard experiment that proved it works for real devices:

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Essentially, the results were as follows:

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So I did an experiment. I connected four MOSFETs, HUF75645P, 100V, 75A,

310W, 0.014 ohm. Sources to GND. Gates tied together, through 100 ohms to a pot across 10 VDC supply. Each drain to a 100 ohm resistor and a red LED to +10 VDC.

Vgs: 2.50 2.60 2.73 2.86 3.00 3.20 3.50

Vd(1) 8.80 8.75 8.60 8.48 7.95 3.43 0.016 Vd(2) 8.80 8.76 8.62 8.51 8.15 4.56 0.018 Vd(3) 8.76 8.72 8.58 8.45 7.93 2.95 0.015 Vd(4) 8.79 8.76 8.63 8.53 8.21 5.40 0.020

LEDs were all about equal brightness and were barely lit at 2.73V and fairly bright at 3.00V to 3.20V.

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When called to task about the low current used for this test, I redid the experiment:

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OK. I changed the circuit to source follower. Devices 1, 2, and 3 are connected through 12 ohm 10 watt resistors to GND, device 4 has a 100 ohm to GND. All drains connected to a 10 VDC supply. Gates in parallel through

100 ohms to a pot across the supply. Results:

Vg: 5.00 6.00 7.00 7.50 8.00 9.00 10.0 7.50(cold)

Vs(1) 2.25 3.13 4.11 4.65 5.13 6.12 7.11 4.53 Vs(2) 2.31 3.23 4.09 4.73 5.20 6.16 7.18 4.60 Vs(3) 2.18 3.12 4.09 4.60 5.09 6.07 7.06 4.27 Vs(4) 2.26 3.20 4.17 4.67 5.03 6.16 7.16 4.66

Paul

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Paul E. Schoen

Thanks for the help John and Paul

Turns out the problem isnt the LMV611 ability to drive the FET a FDN357N . The refrence was the problem TLVH431. I'm getting 2uS fall times when I switch the refrence in and out.

This is the schematic: Pulsed current source.

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Spice is more optimistic it shows sub 100nS rise fall times. These measurments (see below) are taken at R3 positive input of the LMV611.The rise time in the real world is 300 nS with fall time greater then 2uS.

The mosfet is turning on and off 34nS rise/fall gate pulses. Theres only 2pf at the input to the lmv611 so this isnt the problem. I did test just the refrence portion with a switch by itself and got the same results.

This is a spice sim result of the circuit showing

RED TRACE - Drain of NTS4001 (Cathode of TLVH431) GREEN TRACE - R3 (Positive input of the LMV611)

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I tried placing the switch in different locations but it didnt solve the problem.

Reply to
Hammy

I think it may be the NTS4001 . I just tried the only logic level through hole FET I have RFP30N06LE Rise times were 200nS and fall times were 500nS. It Takes the driver 120 to 200nS to turn it on/off.It has large Qg.

I'll solder in a new NTS4001 tommorrow and see if that fixes the problem.

Reply to
Hammy

In real life, the opamp may wind up when switch U13 is off, and it may take a long time to recover. U13's capacitances may slow things, too.

But what is that 4-terminal box on the right? What is V4 about?

John

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John Larkin

The 4 terminal box is a FDN357N Mosfet model. Fairchild models have an extra terminal for setting the junction temp. The V4 source puts the junction temp at 125 deg C. When I first starting getting models from Fairchild with the extra terminal I didnt know what it was, someone here posted how to use it. I havent gotten around to makeing a proper symbol for the FET with the extra terminal.

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Hammy

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