Spice model di DIAC che non funziona

Salve uso switchercadIII per le simulazioni, il modello che uso per il diac e' molto scadente ed e' questo (conduce un po' quando vuole):

*Generic DIAC .subckt DIAC T1 T2
  • default parameters .param RS=10 ; series resistance .param VK=20 ; breakdown voltage Q1 N002 N001 T2 0 PN Q2 N001 N002 N005 0 NP R1 N002 N004 {20K*(VK-1)} R2 N004 T2 9.5K R3 N002 N005 9.5K Q3 N004 N003 N005 0 PN Q4 N003 N004 T2 0 NP R4 T1 N005 {RS} .model PN NPN Cjc=10p Cje=10p .model NP PNP Cjc=10p Cje=10p .ends DIAC

In rete ho trovato questi due che pero' non funzionano, sono per LTspice e credo siano adatti, noto che il comando .subckt ha parametri diversi pur es sendo in tutti i casi un diac, io non mi ci raccapezzo, qualcuno conosce le modifiche da fare per farlo funzionare? Nel secondo mi pare di capire che sono compresi 6 modelli, ma per usarli de vo rinominare il componente sullo schema chiamandolo non "diac" ma "db3"?

Grazie

mandi

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Primo modello:

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  • PSpice Model Editor - Version 9.2

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********** *SRC=DB3; 32V 2A *DIAC

..SUBCKT DB3 1 2

  • TERMINALS: MT2 MT1 QN1 5 4 2 NOUT; OFF QN2 8 6 7 NOUT; OFF QP1 6 8 10 POUT; OFF QP2 4 5 9 POUT; OFF D1 7 9 DZ D2 2 10 DZ DF 4 3 DZ; OFF DR 6 3 DZ; OFF RF 4 3 1.13E+7 RR 6 3 1.13E+7 RT2 1 7 0.755 RH 7 6 10k RH2 4 2 10k ..MODEL DZ D (IS=321F RS=100 N=1.5 IBV=10N BV=30.3) ..MODEL POUT PNP (IS=321F BF=100 CJE=134p TF=25.5U) ..MODEL NOUT NPN (IS=321F BF=200 CJE=134p CJC=26.8p TF=1.7U) ..ENDS
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Secondo modello:

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***********************************************************************
  • DIAC PSpice Models *
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  • This DIAC model simulates:

*Vbo: Break over voltage

*Delta_V: Dynamic breakover voltage *Ibo: Breakover current * *All these parameters are constant, and don't vary neither *with temperature nor other parameters. ***********************************************************************

*$ .SUBCKT DIAC DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT PARAMS:

+Tr=0.342 +Vbo=13.6V +Delta_V=19V +Ibo=15uA *

*Vbo: Break over voltage

*Delta_V: Dynamic breakover voltage *Ibo: Breakover current

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  • Power circuit *
******************************* * ******************************* *Switch circuit* ******************************* S_S1 N01041 N01060 N02098 DIAC_OUT _S1 D_D1 N06161 N01041 DZ19V D_D2 N06161 N01060 DZ19V D_D3 N10655 N01060 DZ14V D_D4 N10655 DIAC_OUT DZ14V V_IDIAC1 DIAC_IN N01041 DC 0Vdc AC 0Vac C_C1 N02098 DIAC_OUT 1u IC=0 R_R1 N02098 TRG 1.462*{Tr} RS_S1 N02098 DIAC_OUT 1G E_ABM1 TRG DIAC_OUT VALUE { IF(ABS(I(V_IDIAC1))>{Ibo},1,0)} C_C2 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT 10p

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  • Switch Model *
******************************* .MODEL _S1 VSWITCH Roff=1e7 Ron=2.2 Voff=0.1V Von=0.99V *******************************
  • Diodes Model *
******************************* .model DZ14V D(Is=3.142f Rs=0.1 Ikf=0 N=1 Xti=3 Eg=1.11 M=. 3282 + Vj=.75 Fc=.5 Isr=1.973n Nr=2 Bv={Vbo} Ibv=.14467 Nbv=1.093 + Ibvl=.1m Nbvl=1.2722 Tbv1=001433.3u)
  • .model DZ19V D(Is=6.994f Rs=5.612 Ikf=0 N=1 Eg=1.11 M=.2906
+ Vj=.75 Fc=.5 Isr=2.088n Nr=2 Bv={Delta_V} Ibv=.17098 Nbv =1.2072 + Ibvl=2.002m Nbvl=1.1457 Tbv1=888.89u) * Vz = 18 @ 14mA, Zz = 37 @ 1mA, Zz = 11 @ 5mA, Zz = 7.9 @ 20mA .ends * *********************************************************************
  • Standard DIACs *
********************************************************************* * *$ .subckt DB3TG DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT X1 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT DIAC params: +Tr=0.342 +Vbo=13.6V +Delta_V=19V +Ibo=6uA
  • 2008 / ST / Rev 1 .ends
*$ .subckt DB3 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT X1 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT DIAC params: +Tr=0.342 +Vbo=13.6V +Delta_V=19V +Ibo=10uA
  • 2008 / ST / Rev 0 .ends
*$ .subckt DB4 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT X1 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT DIAC params: +Tr=0.342 +Vbo=21.6V +Delta_V=19V +Ibo=10uA
  • 2008 / ST / Rev 1 .ends
*$ .subckt SMDB3 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT X1 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT DIAC params: +Tr=0.102 +Vbo=13.6V +Delta_V=19V +Ibo=4uA
  • 2008 / ST / Rev 0 .ends
*$ .subckt TMMDB3TG DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT X1 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT DIAC params: +Tr=0.342 +Vbo=13.6V +Delta_V=19V +Ibo=6uA
  • 2010 / ST / Rev 0 .ends
*$ .subckt TMMDB3 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT X1 DIAC_IN DIAC_OUT DIAC params: +Tr=0.342 +Vbo=13.6V +Delta_V=19V +Ibo=10uA
  • 2010 / ST / Rev 0 .ends
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zio bapu
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Il 06/06/2015 15:35, zio bapu ha scritto:

Io potrei, ma fino al 10 luglio sono preso fino ai capelli.

software.

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Arkannen

Il giorno sabato 6 giugno 2015 20:48:57 UTC+2, Arkannen ha scritto:

Si, grazie, ci sono appena stato per trovare il modello di un mospower, mi sa che e' la soluzione migliore.

mandi

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zio bapu

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