working from home

That's a bit toasty for me and I have lived in semi tropics in the past. I stop work if my office goes over 33C - my brain overheats and so do I.

It only happens a couple of days a year in the UK so warm - none so far this year. Last year at this time there were record high temperatures.

I last saw those here with Vista crosses fingers or on customers machines with badly out of date graphics drivers. Some of my Vista BSODs were actually failing electrolytics on the motherboard.

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There is a local guy who has one round here. Uses it to lob water melons across the fields at various village fetes to raise funds for charity. (of which there are none this year)

Belgium has an interesting take on this removals problem they have the most ramshackle ladder with motorised platform thing you can imagine and pile their belongings on it and then it goes up to the floor required. They take the window out to move stuff in. Scary or what?

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It is looking a bit more dodgy in Hong Kong as well for Covid being on the rise. The problem is as ever with the asymptomatic transmission.

It was pretty much inevitable. The virus is far too infective and sufficiently stealthy to escape from quarantine. If only because bored quarantinees are inclined to sleep with the hotel security guards which is how the thing escaped back into the community in Australia.

Only New Zealand has truly dodged this bullet and even they may struggle to keep it out long term if they want to have a tourist industry again.

UK has banned travel to Spain at the moment including isolated Spanish islands where the Covid rate is an order of magnitude lower than here. The Catalan area represents the vast majority of all Spanish cases. It is bad news for Spain because these places rely on British tourists.

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You've correctly identified the officials who sign off on such reports. So what?

There's international agreement on how the WHO reports are handled, but local quirks make most data questionable for a variety of reasons (mainly just innocent).

In recent weeks, SF has had very odd infection/death ratios, completely unlikely and out of sync with the rest of the nation. Why?

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Am 29.07.20 um 22:30 schrieb John Larkin:

Oh, yes, I think I heard someone talk that Xi Jinping was heard saying:

?Think of this, if we didn?t do testing, instead of testing over 40 million people, if we did half the testing we would have half the cases,? Xi said at a press conference at a WHO meeting where he gave new orders. ?If we did another, you cut that in half, we would have, yet again, half of that."

Gerhard

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here too, you can rent one,

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

"Dodged the bullet" means they have created a virus-naiive super-infectable population. A vaccine could save them, or years of closed borders.

Closed borders, between countries and states, is mostly useless tribalism. There are a zillion virus seeds in the UK already.

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SF's PPM death count is very low. Maybe it's the climate, cool with very high humidity. Big office buildings have air conditioning, and are mostly shut down. Small biz and residences rarely have a/c here. When it gets too hot inside, we can open a window an inch or two.

About half of US deaths have been in senior nursing homes. The big senior nursing home in SF is Laguna Honda; zero deaths so far among residents and staff. They protected everyone, like New York didn't.

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It's not people who are dying that are the problem, now. Most COVID hospital beds are filled with people who WON'T die -- yet they tie up that space (and resources -- staff, supplies) from folks who get in car accidents, have heart attacks/strokes, complications in delivery, elective surgeries, etc.

We won't know what the health consequences for the survivors will be for year(s) after this mess has been "controlled" (at least enough so that folks can start looking at statistical correlations).

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Don Y

Did he actually say that? Not only does power corrupt, it makes people stupid.

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John Larkin

Oh, pull the other one! The climate for a virus is about 98,6 Fahrenheit and one hundred percent humidity. This is about INFECTIONS that do happen, and DEATHS that do not.

The count is very low, and there IS some kind of reason, but while a climate might affect transmission rate, that's clearly not what causes low death probability.

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Am 30.07.20 um 21:59 schrieb John Larkin:

Yes, it was said, just not by Xi.

I did copy & paste the text in quotes from a Donald Trump press conference. Verbatim.

I could not make that up with my limited English. But I invented the intro and the text between the quotes.

Gerhard

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OK, suggest a reason.

Explain the curve in Australia too.

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we went back to work fully mid June, with some people starting mid May

the guidelines and the pullback was strong

the US. I hope it will be under control soon in the US

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I seem to recall Trump saying something virtually identical. Actually, tha t sounds like something Larkin would say, cite some facts and not draw a co nclusion.

Technically there is nothing wrong with what he said. What is wrong is how people interpret or misquote it.

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Two possibilities: SF exports failing patients to outside facilities, or SF doesn't get direct death reports, has to wait for a state agency to divulge (SF doesn't license all the surrounding cemeteries, either). Neither of those hypothesis fails to fit the data.

Oh, that's well known. The rocky bits displace the Pacific. You can verify this by moving rocks, or watching for a tide cycle. Maybe your buddy Bill will shift a stone for you? Timed satellite erial views are available, I'm sure.

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whit3rd

Hook, line and sinker :) Excellent.

It is also an excellent example of someone seeing what they want to believe, and not thinking.

I wonder if lessons will be learned.

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Tom Gardner

You have an aggressive refusal to think. That's bad in general and especially bad for designing electronics.

It's not unusual, either.

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jlarkin

OK, you lied. That's why I asked if it was true, because I was skeptical that Xi would say that.

Of course, whoever said it, it's true. Given the current testing patterns, if we had half the tests, we'd have half the positive tests. In January we had zero positive tests.

It was a hypothetical, beginning with "Think of this..."

Most of people are reluctant to think. Most people. Lots of people are eager to lie.

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No, that doesn't necessarily follow. You're assuming no change in the populations being tested.

Initially, there were strict constraints on who COULD get a test. I.e., folks who were more likely to TEST POSITIVE.

Folks can now self-select for testing -- regardless of their actual level of risk.

Once you open testing up to anyone who *wants* a test, then you will capture a large number of folks who wouldn't previously have "qualified" for a test -- including those one would have assumed to be "negative" (as previously there wasn't much thought of a large asymptomatic population) -- instead of just the folks who (based on the gating criteria) are likely more "positives".

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Don Y

Lesson 1: Gerard is a liar.

Lesson 2: Gerard is a mean-spirited jerk.

Lesson 3: So are you.

It would have been stupid of Xi to say that, because he has been denying that there are any more cases in China. He's a liar too. And corrupt.

As a hypothetical, the mis-quote the same thing I've been saying here: test density modulates test results.

"Think of this..."

Try that some time. Think.

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