Wireless Power Nearly There

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Say goodbye to the tangle of cables and the wall socket and hello to powering up your electronic gizmos wirelessly.

Now 90% effecient at 3 feet distant. Not bad. Rediscovering Teslas work.

K.

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It's silly. Look at the size of those loops.

Something like a universal charging platter is feasible; just lay your cell phone, ipod, flashlight, whatever on it for a while. That would take some serious standardization agreements, and efficiency would be low, not very "green." Charging at any useful distance is very unlikely.

More premature press release nonsense.

John

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John Larkin

How long do you think it will take for someone to show evidence this mechanism causes cancer?

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John Popelish

Just as soon as they figure out a way for lab rats to swallow a bunch of these. ;-)

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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Oh whoopie, they've discovered the air core transformer, just like in the charger for my electric toothbrush.

Who will be the first to get their credit cards zeroed out from being too close?

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jimp

How long do you think it will take for someone to claim this mechanism causes [unwanted effect ... you name it] without any evidence whatsoever?

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Androcles

Less time, of course.

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John Popelish

Ha, and discover what irration cancer is all about!

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Jamie

A three feet distance it's one hell of an air-core! I think not.

K.

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kronecker

OK, so they've discovered the tuned air core transformer.

Oh, whoopie.

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Old wives' tales still abound. I was recently told that my new fridge/freezer should not be turned on for 24 hours because it had been tilted horizontally bringing it in through the front door and I should wait for the fluid to settle. Needless to say I thanked the person, shoved my frozen food in, plugged it in the socket and turned it on. I have the feeling that it may be some time before I can radiate enough power to operate it wirelessly from the nearby microwave oven at 90% efficiency. Maybe I need a 3 foot diameter parabolic dish in my kitchen from which I can get cancer instead of salmonella poisoning from unfrozen pork chops, but for now I'll stick with 3 feet of insulated copper wire.

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Androcles

But it's over three feet in diameter. It's ludicrous, and there's nothing new here.

It would work at 60 feet if the coils were 60 feet in diameter.

"At least five years away" is doublespeak for "probably never."

John

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John Larkin

It's not 'fluid', it is the oil needed to keep the compressor from destroying itself. If enough had drained into the freon lines, the compressor would have seized up, and you would be out the price of the repair, since stupidity isn't covered by the warranty.

As always, there is no accounting for know it alls.

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A long ton is 2240 lb, a short ton is 2000 lb. Is a long tilt when the pinball machine goes dead, you have to put more money in to get a replay, and a brief tilt when the flippers still work? You'll need to do better than that to convince me, Chucky.

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Common Refrigerator Questions

a.. What is the ideal temperature for a refrigerator?

a.. Why is the back of a refrigerator painted black?

a.. What is the function of the fan in a refrigerator?

a.. How does a frost-free refrigerator work?

How can I tell if the light in my refrigerator goes off or not when I close the door?

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Somehow they left out long tilts, it doesn't seem to be a common refrigerator question.

I call long tilts an old wives' tale.

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Pure ammonia gas is highly toxic to people and would pose a threat if the refrigerator were to leak, so all home refrigerators don't use pure ammonia. You may have heard of refrigerants know as CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons), originally developed by Du Pont in the 1930s as a non-toxic replacement for ammonia. CFC-12 (dichlorodifluoromethane) has about the same boiling point as ammonia. However, CFC-12 is not toxic to humans, so it is safe to use in your kitchen. Many large industrial refrigerators still use ammonia.

In the 1970s, it was discovered that the CFCs then in use are harmful to the ozone layer, so as of the 1990s, all new refrigerators and air conditioners use refrigerants that are less harmful to the ozone layer.

Another old wives' tale.

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Androcles

Sleep in it.

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Michael A. Terrell

To what? The promoters behind this?

I'm waiting to see how long it will take the audiophool cable people to come up with some canned de-magnetized air. You know, to improve the quality of the air gap coupling.

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You mean the lubricating oil that surrounds the compressor, which also keeps it cool by conducting heat away to the surrounding steel can, is free to pass to the other side of the piston that is usually compressing the refrigerant (i.e. freon, pentane, or whatever) and to have 'drained into the freon lines' if the fridge is held horizontally? Then, (assuming there isn't a one-way valve for oil into freon - and if so, why?) wouldn't the freon have access to the other side of the piston so the compressor would be 'short circuited' - and wouldn't work?

Chris

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As always, there is no accounting for know-it-alls and Michael A. Terrell is one of them. Incidentally, stupidity IS covered by the warranty - the first unit was dented by the delivery crew and I demanded a replacement.

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That wasn't a warranty replacement. The warranty doesn't start until the customer accepts delivery, moron. That was 'Damage in Transit'/ Items like that are returned to the distributor, and sold at scratch and dent dealers like 'Appliance Direct'. They also sell discontinued models.

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If stupidity 'was' covered by warranties, your parents should have returned you for someone with a working brain.

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The oil isn't compressible. Think about it: What would happen if you filled a cylinder in your car's engine with motor oil when it was in the compression stroke, and tried to start it? You would burn out the starter motor, but not tun the engine over. Now think about a tiny compressor with a small electric motor in the same situation.

As far as Androcles, he has the story wrong, as usual. If a refrigerator or freezer is transported horizontally, it is in that position more than a few minutes, and has vibration that helps the oil flow where it doesn't belong.

Have you ever looked at what is inside a small Freon compressor? It is sealed to reduce the chances of a Freon leak, but is identical to the

50+ year old designs that had the exposed compressor mounted on springs. The oil is inside the compressor, not the outer housing. I've seen a lot of them scrapped, and not one had any oil in the outer housing, unless the compressor's body was damaged.

Owners manuals used to have that warning on the front, the back, and sometimes two or three more places, along with a plastic bag taped over the AC plug with another warning you to let it sit after delivery. They figured that a 24 hour wait was no big deal, compared to 20 or more years of useful product life.

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