Ukraine: North Stream 3? (2023 Update)

whit3rd snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

+1 for 100% accuracy. Jan Pan is about as stupid as it gets.
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
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No. The party is a ruling elite.

Please stay away. You wouldn't like it here. Stay in the boring flatlands with muddy water.

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John Larkin

It's a pretty extensive ruling elite. It has got 96 million members in a total population of 1.4 billion.

My impression is that being a member of the party involves doing quite a lot of work, and that if you don't put in the hours you don't stay a member.

There's more to it than being a registered Republican or Democrat in the US.

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There's nothing boring about the Dutch landscape, and the rivers there aren't noticeably muddy. Admittedly, the best thing about Nijmegen when we lived there was that you could driver to Burgundy in six hours, but Burgundy is a very attractive destination.

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Anthony William Sloman

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin snipped-for-privacy@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

High land my foot! You are just jealous Send your Mean Wells back to China if you are real!

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Jan Panteltje

Of the Netherlands? As If!

The home office is in Taiwan.

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John Larkin

Ignorance is bliss, and John Larkin has invested in truckloads of ignorance. If he were any more blissful he'd be dead.

That's probably what it takes to live on top of the San Andreas fault. People with sense move out when they start to get a grip of the risk involved.

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Anthony William Sloman

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Those 3 meter elevations sound thrilling.

Looks like great fun. We barbarians have to ski outdoors on frozen water.

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John Larkin

C'mon, John, Jan & Co. have done mud really well for centuries now.

Unfortunately they may wind up doing cold and dark really well this winter too. :(

What with their govt's attempt to expropriate the farmers, hunger could enter the mix soonish, though probably confined to their overseas customers at first. :( :(

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

The Netherlands does cater for psychiatric care in the community. If you are crazy enough to want to risk breaking your neck and pretty much every other bone in your body by getting on ski's and sliding down steep snow-covered slopes, the Netherlands can provide facilities where you can act out your obsessions.

It's not a large country, so you can drive from there to places with longer, steeper hills which can be snow-covered for more of the year.

And the there are special flights to get you home to a Dutch hospital after you've broken your leg or your neck, or wrecked your brain.

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Anthony William Sloman

The government isn't trying to expropriate any farmers. The problem is farmers who try to raise pigs and cattle in battery hen conditions, and insist on letting the urea and other organic wastes they generate run off into the local ground water.

Towns and cities have to process their biological waste in sewage farms, but the farmer don't want to spend money on that.

One of our friends in the Netherlands had the copper guttering around his roof rot off be cause the farmer next door was dumping enough urea into the ground water that there was enough ammonia in the air to rot copper.

The farmers do try to spin it as their right to manage their own stock on their own land but they are being greedy and irresponsible

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Anthony William Sloman

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 21:28:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin snipped-for-privacy@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Every year trains with people with arms and legs in casts come back from Switzerland here, some way to have a holiday I guess. I do not even watch those skying competitions..

Not much winter here lately (last few years). It is going to be Hawaii like: nice warm beaches if GlowBallWorming proceeds or it will all flood due to sea level rise.

What will happen to 'frisco? Maybe Andreas fault... will be Chinese anyways,, California always was a piece of China IIRC.

New theory, earth was much smaller and all covered with land. Some other heavenly body smacked into it, earth became bigger, the continents separated, water everywhere, Dinos died collapsing under their own weight. :-)

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Jan Panteltje

On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:38:38 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs snipped-for-privacy@electrooptical.net wrote in snipped-for-privacy@electrooptical.net:

Not much winter here for many years now...

Yes, green idiots are everywhere, those could also be CIA operatives trying us to get to buy US food...

My single vote has little effect on decisions made in the EU. When the next generation grows up hungry maybe they will see the light and abandon all that crap, My parents remembered the hunger winter in WW2 and I was brought up with that in mind.

When all is past

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'merricans are way to fat, bad for your health...

Am looking for a nice boat, sail south, live from fish and find some nice uninhabitated island where _ hopefully there was no US atomic testing done _ and sit in the sun without internet and QRcodes and GPS and .. oh well maybe keep the radio to hear where the bombs are falling... Imagine no wall wart, shortwave reception must be great!!

Actually the world is very small these days, many have those bombs any place safe? radiation everywhere, Musk has lost it so no Mars trip.. too cold there anyways..... its gonna be hard :-)!

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Jan Panteltje

If you want to get properly depressed then you should read this:

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John

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John Walliker

On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Oct 2022 02:44:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened John Walliker snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Ah! I think I have seen the movie or heard the radio broadcast... OTOH he is a bit over-pessimistic. Wildlife is flourishing around Chernobyl, mostly because there are no humans there to kill it :-) we had some of the fallout here, you were warned not to eat vegetables from your garden etc, the airco filers in the building I worked had to be replaced as they were 'hot', so imagine what you inhaled outside.. am still around. It inspired me to build some radiation detection equipment and monitor for radiation 24/7

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looks Ok now tick tick tick We have iodine pills just in case... Another good movie is Dr Strangelove
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it on DVD .. One of my favorite movies is
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space based nukes....

Russia just launced 2 mysterious spacecraft, US has some stuff up there too. Long ago a UK hacker who hacked some satellite was arrested, its all to easy!!

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Jan Panteltje

I used to ski in Aspen. The joke was Texans showing up with expensive Bogner outfits and Hexcel skis and falling off the chairlifts.

In Tahoe now, we get big Chinese families renting cabins and condos, who sure look new to snow. But they tend to take bunny-slope lessons and not fall so much.

Skiing takes a while to get into. It took me a couple of weeks to figure out how to turn.

The experts expect the Big One to be in southern California.

The fault is just south of here. Check google earth. The Crystal Springs reservoirs are a chain of subduction lakes. The fault heads out to sea between the beach and Mussel Rock in Pacifica.

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Check youtube for Pacifica Drone. Pacifica is falling into the ocean.

They can fight the Mexicans for California.

The Russians want Alaska back too.

Oh well, back to measuring leakage inductances.

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John Larkin

Most likely pulled apart by weight of water inside. Question is how long the pipe can last under-water. They can probably save 10% to 20% of the pipe at the Russia end, if they flush it with clean water and pressurized air. But the rest is likely to remain under-water for months, if not years. Germany is not obligated to save it by installing back flush equipments.

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Ed Lee

Was it an external explosion? It would take a huge string of explosives to blow up 50 meters of pipeline.

I suspect Russian incompetence. Overpressure, water hammer, something dumb.

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John Larkin

On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:25:57 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Cool, not sure I want to try it at my age..

But then again, at low altitude perhaps...

There can be a lot of storms here on the coast, beaches, I was there once in a storm and the sand was like a sandstorm burning your eyes. Been at Malibu beach and LA.. Santa Monica, was nice. But Miami Florida was warmer... Got some sunburn.

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Jan Panteltje

Those parasail things look very dangerous to me. And lots of fun. There are big groups that meet there on a good day so we have potential for mid-air collisions.

The Gulf Coast dunes in the Florida panhandle are beautiful white sugar sand. When I was at Tulane, we'd, on a whim, drive to Destin for the weekend and rent a cheap motel with a kitchen. There are probably no cheap motels there now.

The beaches in Louisiana are full of Mississippi river silt, gray and nasty and often oily. You need to drive past about Pensacola to get white sand.

What's the sand like on the beaches in the Netherlands?

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John Larkin

On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:19:45 -0700) it happened John Larkin snipped-for-privacy@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

The sand is clean! Apart from where few years ago a ship lost many containers and lots of stuff and plastic foam polluted beaches, big cleanup effort happened by many people, we send the bill to the ship's operators. Behind the beaches at the west coast here are the 'dunes', big heaps of sand with some vegetation, nice place to go for a walk. I once rented a small apartment on top of one, in 'zandvoort'

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me many hours drive to my home in the north and back everyday when I worked at a project at Schiphol airport. I remember after experiencing that sand storm a neighbor there told me he accidently left his car parked on the road next to the beach, a sandstorm stripped of all the paint ...

These days there is formula one racing and other racing in Zandvoort, makes a lot of noise when you sit on the beach, that is a minus. But there are many more coastal villages so ... I once lived in Scheveningen, a few miles to the south, is is basically connected to The Hague... has a beach too. And in the north we have several islands google "vlieland duinen" for example for pictures it is close to where I live now, just a ferry 22 miles, away.

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Jan Panteltje

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