Ta-da!

Oct 07, 2012 29 Replies

Scheme doesn't work with a full-wave rectifier in place. Works well in cheapy appliance controllers where it's no rectification other than the "pump" parts. ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Demonstrate how.

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

YAY!

Standard education issue. If I simply give you the answer you'll never learn to think things thru yourself ;-)

I told you about "stack ratio" and asked WHERE are the ESD diodes and pointed you at the data sheet. Everything you need to know is there.

You beat the crap out of me when I missed a bit of information from a data sheet. Why doesn't the same treatment apply to you? Hmmmm?

Personally I don't think you'll _ever_ get it >:-) ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

YAY! Too soon. It didn't take :-( ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

You said it yourself: I beat the crap out of you. Keep posting stupid nonsense, and keep insulting my wife, and I'll keep doing it.

Quit smirking and demonstrate.

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

I bet you have a neon sign outside your building, "The great and wonderful John Larkin works here" ;-)

And you'll never "get it"... you lack the true engineering thinking processes to solve it... you're just a Tulane hacker ;-) ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 10/7/2012 3:59 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

I don't know for sure but guess that circuit is for the initial start up, until the flyback takes over. I have a circuit I made using a depletion mode fet too that works for this and has been built.

cheers, Jamie

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and 20VDC output@1200mA plus 20Vaux@50mA) TEXT -728 -776 Left 0 ;how can we get full 1200mA regulated output load? (our bias winding is 20V but our output sags at high current draw..)

I tried to upload a working zip file for the ltspice sim but can't with my new server, if anyone wants it I can send it via email.

cheers, Jamie

No wonder! When I looked at your results the first time I completely missed the notes below each graph. Everything is there as you say. Zooming in really helps. Sorry about that.

Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with dadoheadman. Then replace nospam with fastmail. Lastly, replace com with us.

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